Nothing really, except that the stereotype would have the Rabbit up on the jack and not the Celica. Of course, we don’t actually know if the Rabbit is running or not. By the way, this Outtake is dedicated to Mike Butts (MikePDX), long time CC reader and Contributor, who pointed out that he hadn’t seen a Celica hatchback of this generation for a long time. Here it is, and presumably, it will be running again soon.
If I see it out on the street, I’ll get full set of pics and do a CC.
Every now and then a coupe of this generation of Celica appears on Craigslists in my area, the convertibles are rarer than the coupes and the liftbacks are EXTREMELY rare.
Myself? I prefer the even numbered generations of the Celica, which includes this one.
The Celica may be a runner with the Rabbit temporarily pressed into service as a DD.
Looks like the house is about ready for a new roof too…
Nothing at all wrong with this picture. The VW does a great job of showing off that efficiency of design that prevailed 75 true 85. I sometimes lament that this Celica went front drive along with the Camry and Corolla instead of staying on it’s own road like the Mustang or Camaro. But these were quite attractive, and the twin cam 16 valve engine, while not quite a Honda sewing machine or GTI torquey, was a long lived adequate mill.
It must be my crappy monitor as I don’t see any safety stands and only _once_ do you need to see a Human Being popped open like a watermelon …..
-Nate
Here’s a gamma-adjusted copy of the photo:
O.K., thanx ~ .
-Nate
Nothing wrong with the picture. When you have two broken cars, you fix the best one. 🙂
The only thing I see wrong with this picture is the recycle bin full of beer bottles. No wonder nothing apparently has gotten done to the cars!
Nothing wrong with beer, of course… 😉
Trying to keep old junkers (to me) on the road when so many other good cars are available puzzles me – neither car interests me, but to each their own.
Sometimes keeping that old junker on the road is actually the best financial decision. If you can’t make payments on a new(er) car, either because you can’t afford the payment or because of credit, and you only have a grand or two in cash (if that), you might find yourself trading a problem now for a problem later. The devil you know, and all that. It may not be predictable, and it may not give you much in the way of luxury or style, but making that $300 repair three or four times a year is far less total cash outlay than a $199/month lease payment.
Surprised no one has stolen (collected) the 5¢ glass bottles out of the recycling.
“What’s wrong with this picture?”
First thought- OH MY GOD, DID THEY JACK IT UP BY THE OIL PAN?
I saw that once in Auto Shop in high school… Luckily, it was on one of the non-running shop cars (a relatively uncommon 1988 LeSabre coupe). The instructor was flabbergasted, although he was only in his second year of teaching, so perhaps that’s why something like that still surprised him.
There was also the 1985 Regal with the inverted right rear footpan, due to another jacking mistake.
When I was in high school, a coworker asked for help changing the tire on his dad’s 2 year old LeSabre. I told him to jack it up and I would be along in a minute. When I came out, he had the bumper jack set up to lift at the rear wheel opening. I screamed and stopped him before he tore the crap out of the quarter panel. Oy!
Could be on the crossmember, I always jack my car from there.
I was distracted by the OTHER wrong thing. The classic bungalow, otherwise a beautifully untouched original, has a tiny modern window in the bathroom. Understandable. On a corner lot you don’t want the usual tall window next to the tub, even if it’s frosted. Still wrong, like a Pierce Arrow with a ground-effect spoiler.
Nothing wrong here. Except that the Golf Mk1 evolved into the current gen and is still being made and that the Celica had 17 completely different body styles (just a wild guess) and has been killed off as a Toyota model.
Just out of interest, what’s the average lifetime of a type of roof like that. Are those shingles ? You just replace them after … years ?
Those are asphalt shingles. Very common in US. 20-30 years depending on quality is average life. Some times a second layer will be installed over a previous roof. When I replaced my roof I had a tear off done which I think is the best way. My 1975 house had it’s original roof replaced in 2010. The replacement’s are rated as 30 year shingles. The house pictured needs to have the tree debris swept off and could stand a pressure wash to get rid of the moss as well. The Rabbit needs a front bumper, and has later MK2 Golf/Jetta 13 in wheels on it. It appears to be a ’78 or ’79 if it’s a Diesel. It’s a German built example, and if it’s a gas engine it is a fuel injected version. Nice car, these are getting hard to find. Oh yeah, there’s also a Toyota missing it’s brakes jacked up in front of it.
Technically, fiberglass asphalt composition shingle. By FAR, the most common roofing in America. I know by European standards it looks and feels flimsy. But it’s very cheap, and is even used on large buildings sometimes, like hotels and such.
This one looks ok except it has moss, which tends to grow commonly here in our wet climate. It grows most commonly on the north side or under trees. It should be removed, as it will reduce the lifespan of the roof. I sprinkle a moss remover on all my rental house roofs every year (it’s a zinc compound).
Speaking of life span, the color of the shingles affects lifespan. The white or light ones way outlive the dark ones, which have become the fad in the last 20 years or so. Sunlight is what damages them (and everything else in the world), so white is the way to go.
The oldest roof like that on one of my rentals was already quite old when I moved it, and that was in 1996! And it’s still going ok, but it is white. Or was white, as the fine granules on the surface are starting to wear off.
So the lifespan can be anywhere from 20 to 50 years. I’m convinced that a white composition shingle roof kept clean can readily go 50 years.
Of course, when folks worry about their roof, they call a roofing contractor to look at it, and naturally he tells them it needs replacing! I see perfectly good roofs replaced all the time. Not mine!!
Thanks ! Nothing wrong with that kind of lifespan.
Shingles are pretty common here too, but only on an annex, like a garden shed or horse stable. So far I never saw them on a pitched roof of a house. In that case ceramic (clay) roof tiles are the most common. Plenty of clay and, consequently, brick- and tile factories alongside the rivers throughout the country.
Looks weird to Australian eyes, too. Here your roof is either tiles or corrugated iron sheeting. Except for some older buildings which used slates.
Slates were somewhat common in the USA in a bygone era also. It depends on the location, but in my area (Richmond, VA) many older houses built from the late 1800’s to just before World War II have slate roofs. My wife and I just purchased a home earlier this year, which has a slate roof, despite being built just after WWII (1947). It was one of the things which really attracted me to the house, as properly maintained slate is a truly a lifetime material. Many 100+ year old homes still wear their original slates.
We had a minor repair done about a month ago after a few slates were displaced during a storm, and the roofer who did the work remarked that the price tag to put a new slate roof on a modern, new construction home usually runs over $100,000 USD. And *that* is why you don’t see them any more on new homes!
No wheel chocks or jack stands is the problem.
My ’88 Celica was the WORST car I ever owned, bar none. That’s saying something considering I’ve owned (at one time or another) an air bag suspension-equipped Lincoln Continental, 2 Chrysler K cars, a J-body Cavalier, a Plymouth Volare, and several decade-plus old Mercedes and BMWs. Not the mention the various $200-600 ‘tinker toys’ that have graced my garage over the years
During my 6months of Celica ownership, I experienced the following issues (in order of discovery):
-No heater (in January)
-leaky sunroof that pissed water all over me (also in January)
-cassette player that, once in operation, never stopped playing tape in a constant loop
-ran so hot you could fry an egg on the hood after 10 min of driving (in January again)
-impossible cold starts
-pop-up headlights that required a good whack to make operable. This only happened whenever I was with a girl I was trying to impress.
-rear hatch wouldn’t stay open, required broom handle
-began to slip out of 5th gear, first on interstate, then everywhere (had to hold in place while driving)
-sudden unintended acceleration/revving of engine (almost blew up)
-melted/warped brake rotors that would glow orange after a long-ish trip.
-blow through an ignition coil literally every week
This was also the only car that ever left me stranded on the side of the road. This happened on three separate occasions. Notable because even the Buick Skylark (with blown head gasket) I bought off my friend for $50 for the sole purpose of trashing it out in the woods made it home.
Not to dis-respect you, but when folks on here say a car (or truck) is crap I wish they would include some pertinent information. Things like: age of the car when it started to go haywire, how many miles on the engine/transmission, what kind of person owned it before you got it.
In this particular case, if you bought that Celica brand new….well it might be a colossal P.O.S. If you got it a year ago and it had 200,000+ miles on it….I might expect even a Toyota to fall apart.
I’m on my 4th Honda and the last 2 have been borderline money pits. But both were somewhat abused and barely maintained. I came close to junking my Civic last weekend over a broken ball joint and “dis-located” half shaft. The tires, I realized, are nearly bald, and so I am looking a bit more intently for a replacement. I won’t miss it…much.
Yes. I’m not saying that they’re all “crap” because clearly there have been more than a few toyotas that have outlasted their competition. I’m just saying that mine was. And for what it’s worth, it was an older (12yrs) but low mileage (95k) and seeminely well-maintained used car. It did have the effect of turning me off Toyotas for a while, not that they’ve made anything that I’ve found interesting lately anyway, but still.
And don’t even get me started on my last (and only) Honda. An ’04 Civic bought from a Honda dealership in ’07 with only 69k on it that required multiple trips to the shop to solve numerous sensor, cooling system, and CEL issues. I put up with that thing for over two years before dumping it on CL.
How DARE you!
Toyota cars are the only ones that never break down. I had a Camry for 46 years and I never even needed to change the oil or put fuel in the tank. 😛 😛
Obviously he was SABOTAGING his Celica!
Your cassette tape comment reminds me of the TV show How I Met Your Mother. One character owns a Pontiac Fiero, and one of the running jokes around that car is a Proclaimers tape (500 miles) stuck in the deck on constant loop over many years of ownership.
I also can’t recall the last time I saw a celica hatch of this gen.
Never seen a Golf sans bumpers, but I like the look.
“the stereotype would have the Rabbit up on the jack”
A so-called jackrabbit.
Nice!
Still one of my favorite generations of Celica, in this bodystyle, which has aged unusually well for a car of its time.
I came close to buying an ’87 Celica hatchback when I was in high school. Looked good, drove well, and it was within my budget. Then we took it to our mechanic, who told us that the clutch was slipping and the struts were shot. So no Celica after all.
I do wonder where all the hatches went, as I haven’t seen one in ages either. Wonder what the original sales breakdown of hatchback/notchback was?
Boy am I late to the party! I’m on the road for work and just catching up with my usually daily CC. Thanks Paul!!!! I hope you do see it on the road, these were fine cars.