I know some of you are probably a bit weary with my obsession with RVs. But only once, since the Model T revolutionized the car industry, has a similar revolution taken place in regard to wheeled vehicles. Henry Ford was able to slash the price of his car thanks to efficient mass production, making it accessible to a vast segment of the population. It was a one-time occurrence, but one with lasting impact. That a little outfit of rural Iowans desperate to create some jobs was able to revolutionize the RV industry in a comparable way is a story worth telling, especially when I found one of the earliest models to help tell it.
Obviously, the whole history of motor homes is long and a bit complex, since one-off and small-scale production “motor-homes” have been built since the Model T’s day; quite a few on its chassis, actually, like this 1915 Lamsteed Kampkar. But in terms of what it became can be reduced down to the key pioneers of the modern motorhome, of which there are just really two.

Ray Frank coined the term “motorhome”, starting with his first one of 1953, built on a Dodge truck chassis. A partnership with Chrysler resulted in the the Frank-Dodge motorhome (above), which then evolved into the Dodge Travco (CC here).
In 1963, the Travco pioneered a sleek two-piece fiberglass shell, and became the iconic motorhome of its time. But it was pricey, well into the teens then (about $100k adjusted). The Travco was something the average American might dream about, but not realistically attain.
Winnebago got its start building trailers in Forest City, Iowa in the mid fifties. This was a very dispersed industry then, but somehow Winnebago survived and prospered. In part, it may be because it was willing to innovate, like its Thermo-Panel sandwich wall construction, rigid foam insulation sandwiched between the aluminum exterior skin and the inner paneling.
In 1966, Winnebago took the leap to building motor homes, and this one, serial #001, is still running. This first model was a nineteen footer, built on a Ford P-350 chassis, as typically used for step vans. Thanks to Winnebago’s modern production line and volume purchasing, it charged less than half compared to comparable sized motorhomes then available. Just like the Model T Ford, the Winnebago motorhome took off, as the first of its kind realistically available to large segment of the population.
I can’t find an exact price for that 1966, but the seventeen foot F-17 model featured here was priced at $5995 in 1970. That adjusts to $33k in 2010 dollars. And that’s also just a tad more than what a Toronado cost in 1970. Given that hourly wages were just about to hit their all-time peak in 1971 or so, the convergence of rising income and an affordable price was an explosive combination. In 1970, Winnebago went public, and in 1971 its stock was the highest flying of any on the exchange, up 462%. Winnebago was the google of its day.
Within a year or two of motorhome production, there was a whole line of Winnebago models, and all of the larger units (above) except the smallest F-17 moved to proper Dodge motorhome chassis, with dually rear wheels, the 318 V8 and the venerable TorqueFlite. I dare say that a substantial part of the TorqueFlite’s reputation grew from the fact that it was in just about every motorhome for several decades. And it acquitted itself superbly.
But what we have here , the F-17, is the smallest of the line-up, and mighty short at that, a mere 17’4″ long (208″). It still sits on the Ford P-350 van chassis, with all of 104″ of wheelbase. Given that this rig is 111″ tall, it’s one of the few vehicles to be taller than its wheelbase. That’s not anything to be proud of, and these shorty Winnies had a rep for being a bit less than stable under certain conditions, like wind, among others.
And what powers this flying brick? The Ford 300 cubic inch (4.9 L) six. A six cylinder motorhome; hmm. Well, it did weigh a mere 4,890 lbs, dry. That’s less than some CUVs today. Winnebago’s Thermo-Panel construction was light, as well as providing decent insulation. And that Ford six was rated at 170 (gross) hp back than, the highest of any domestic OHV six. Of course, the notoriously inefficient Ford automatic probably sucked up 20-30 of those horses. Still, this Winnie would trundle down the highway at adequate speeds, while Mom made lunch in the kitchen and the kids played in the back dinette or in the bunk over the driver’s head.
That front upper bunk and the unique angles of Thermo-Panel that defined it became a Winnebago trademark, and the basic configuration of all Winnie motorhomes,
including this much bigger later model from the late seventies. By then, the HD 440 big block was building a rep for itself along with the TorqueFlite.
The RV industry’s fortunes are tied to the economy and price of gas more directly than perhaps any other. The First energy crisis put a dent in Winnebago’s explosive growth, but by the late seventies, the party was in full swing again, and the big W built its 100,000th motorhome. The crash and oil-run up of 1981 almost did the company in, and the old look models gave way to a more contemporary style.
But these old Winnies are still plying the streets, although more often nowadays, they’re also being lived on in the streets, by owners who have no other place to call home. And they have vintage paneling to cheer them up. Actually, these very early models still had light-colored paneling, but that soon gave way to the ubiquitous dark fake-walnut that graced every motorhome for decades. Let’s just say that RV manufacturers have not been big on hiring interior decorators, at least not until quite recently for the higher end units.
Winnebago continues its dance with the economy, after mostly shutting down in 2008. The past few years have been brutal for the industry, and here in the Eugene are we have lost all of the the several manufacturers that once made the region a manufacturing node for the industry. It’s a business that thrives during the go-go times, when folks are optimistic, despite knowing that RVs have atrocious depreciation. Or maybe they didn’t know.
But the RV inndustry always seems to reinvent itself, and more efficient smaller diesel units are here and more on the way. But the odds of an RV manufacturer being the hottest stock of the year are long gone. That was a one-time event, due to the assembly-line efficiencies Winnebago introduced coinciding with a time of peak wage growth. Neither of those scenarios are about to come back.


















I never would have guessed that clue Ive not seen many Winnebagos though they are here along with all the locally and home grown RVs .
Yeah you are obsessed Paul but its an obssession that keeps us all coming back for more I guess I and my fellow curbivores suffer from the same disease.
Curbivores! Brilliant.
Curbivore!
Trademark that name right away!
I did it with “cockroach of the road”…
Do you have any idea how much beer I have coming to me?
At least two from me.
Very interesting article Paul. I’m becoming more and more of an RV fan, although that F-17 is seriously one of the ugliest vehicles I’ve ever seen. Looks a tad amateurish compared with the Travco.
As Bryce noted, there are a few Winnebagos here – there’s usually a handful of top-end models on the trademe auction site. Some don’t appear to be American built though, so I’ve been wondering if they’ve licenced the Winnebago name out – eg there are late-model factory RHD Ford Transit RVs here that have Winnebago branding.
It’s ironic (or providence?) that I read this article this evening, as while driving home an hour ago, I noticed the car dealer 1km down the road from my home just got in a 1985 Winnebago Le Sharo, which I’m going to take a look at this week. It reminded me of the Renault RVs we got here new in the 80s, and a quick google reveals the Le Sharo is indeed Renault-based.
Just seeing it for sale in the yard made me think how fascinating it is that a touch of Franco-Americana has ended up here in rural New Zealand, completely on the other side of the world from its birth. Which countries had it been to? How did it get here? Which roads has it travelled? If only RVs (and cars) could talk!
If you really want to see one of the most hideous RVs ever look up the Rectrans from the early 70s. I sent Paul a few pics of the one my friend had a while back. Rectrans makes the Winnies look like supermodels.
Oddly the Rectrans was brought to us by the same guys that gave us some iconic cars like the 63 Vette and Boss 302 Mustang.
Ah…yes, just googled it…that image is emblazoned on the back of my eyes now… Although at least it has a couple of curves in its design, unlike the F-17!
I dunno, looks pretty sleek to me. A lot longer than its height, at least. Looks faster than that rolling shoebox from Winnebago.
NZ Skyliner: If it’s Ford Transit based, it’s definitely not a US-built Winnebago.
Here’s my CC on the LeSharo: http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2010/05/curbside-classic-1985-winnebago-23mpg-lesharo-turbo-diesel-rv/
Thanks for the LeSharo link, very interesting! I’ve done a bit more research, and the factory-RHD Winnebagos we get here are actually Australian-built, from a company named Winnebago Industries. Attached is a picture of one of their Fiat-based RVs. Their website is http://www.winnebago.com.au but doesn’t mention being connected to the American company. But they use the American Winnebago logo/font, so I presume they’re licenced to use it.
It would take me about 10 minutes of driving to somehow tip that thing on its side.
I can’t get over how short the wheelbase is on that thing. The Lincoln’s is more than a foot longer. That’s just wild!
Also funny how the lower ends of the thing are basically identical mirror images of themselves.
I am well familiar with the ups and downs of the RV industry. Elkhart, IN is a major RV center and has gone through several boom and bust cycles with the industry.
As a teen in the 70s, I remember these Winnies being everywhere, although I do not specifically recall this shortie.
My father rented a big motorhome for an east coast vacation in the summer of 1979. Yes, that was the summer of east coast fuel shortages and lines at the gas pumps going all the way down the interstate exit ramps. The big Pace Arrow got about 6 or 8 mpg (IIRC) and the whole trip was devoted to getting enough fuel to finish the trip and get home. NOT a relaxing vacation for Dad. Or, for that matter, for my sister who, as a fairly new driver, couldn’t take Dad breathing down her neck as she piloted a motorhome down the interstate. Me? I lived to have a steering wheel in my hands, no matter what it was attached to.
Too bad. He headed the wrong direction; should have gone West!
Yes, 6-8 mpg is about right, for gas rigs. That;s still about what they get. Let’s just say Winnebago didn’t have a wind tunnel in Forest City.
Taller than its wheelbase? I wonder if any other vehicle can say that? Maybe a jacked-up Smart Car?
Minor nit, Paul: A 1970 318 wasn’t a poly motor – it was from the same family as the 273/340/360. I think the polys went away after ’66 or so? I’m sure someone can help with this!
The LA 318 arrived for 1967, at least in cars. I’m not 100% sure the trucks switched over right away. There was a reference to earliest Winnebagos (’66-’67, other than the F 17) having the poly 318, but it could possibly be wrong.
The A block (commonly called the wide block) 318 was last seen in 1966. The Poly is actually older than the wideblock A, and was basically a hemi without the dual valvetrains. According to Allpar, the Poly came in a whole slew of displacements and was slowly phased out by the newer A and B block engines. The Poly showed up in the ’55 Chrysler Windsor (301) and in the 55-58 Plymouths and some 55-58 Dodges.
The A block came in similar dispacements starting in 1956, including 271, 301 and 303. The 318 of 1957-66 is the most widely known.
This period of Mopar non-hemi V8 engine history is really confusing. I count 6 displacements for the A block (277, 301, 303, 313, 326, 318) and 8 for the poly (241, 259, 270, 301, 315, 325, 331, 354 – the latter two not to be confused with Hemis of the same sizes). Then there were the B and RB big blocks. It would not surprise me at all that some folks may have called the wideblock 318 a poly just because of the musical engine game being played. I am more into Mopar than most, and even I had to go look this up.
Chrysler in the 50s – the engineers’ playground.
Jim, I’m afraid you need to go back and reread that: http://www.allpar.com/mopar/a-engines.html The “wideblock” 318 really did have a poly head.
There were at least two families of “polys”, the older ones were based on the hemi block, but had a poly head. The A series engines had a more modern block, but still had a poly head, which is readily identifiably by their scalloped valve covers. Lift that cover, and one can see that the intakes rockers work in reverse, essentially. This is the reason the A polys are so wide, the poly head necessitated it.
The LA used the A block, with a few minor changes, but ditched the wide poly heads for traditional wedge heads, with all the rockers and pushrods lined up in a row. That was essential to make the A block fit into the narrower compacts.
You’re right though about how confusing it could be; when I was a kid, I had a dickens of a time keeping all those fifties MoPar V8s straight. If only allpar had existed back then!
Good catch, Paul. That will teach me to look up CC stuff when I am in the middle of trying to work too. I had started from the premise that my 2 cars with wideblock 318s were Polys, but then misread the Allpar article which I thought told me that I was wrong. So I was really right. Or was I wrong. I’m so confused.
I like the “box on wheels” look of these things a lot. Thanks for the review.
SHAZAM!!!
PYLE!!!
I guess the reference was a little obscure…anybody remember the Shazam/Isis hour on Saturday morning tv back in the 1970s? It was a horrible show but this was the malaise era for tv as well.
Anyway, the premise was that young Billy would drive around SoCal with an old guy in a Winnebago solving 1 crime a week. And he would communicate with “the Elders” by touching a globe installed by the drivers seat. Before Billy became Shazam, he would first yell “Shazam!”.
The show was so bad, but I always liked the scenes with the Winnie.
I cant remember what Isis did. She was to Billy what Lindsey Wagner was to Lee Majors.
Ok I am done now…
I got your reference immediately. I had not remembered that awful show in years. It would come on late Saturday morning when the cartoons were over but before we kids were ready to pull ourselves away from lounging in front of the tv.
I think the Ford Transit be a good basic vehicle to build a new miniRV on, especially after seeing that F-17.
“I think the Ford Transit be a good basic vehicle…”
Aye matey, a right proper vehicle it be!
In the early 70′s, I used a Winnebago for my employer. I can’t quote a model but it was larger than this model. We removed part of the interior and installed electronic equipment. There was not much structure above the floor – the equipment racks were bolted to the floor.
We did not live in the unit. The big advantage was that we could drive to a location, set up our antennas, and start up the built-in generator. We recorded data for a period of hours and moved on to a new location.
As mentioned by others previously, it was a Dodge chassis/engine. The gas mileage was poor and this was the era of the first “gas embargo”. It made for some anxious moments of finding fuel.
Where’s Jack Rebney when we need him:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDQQfBrSUs0 (NSFW)
Also, don’t forget one of the other early RV designs, the Corvair-powered Ultra Van:
http://www.corvair.org/chapters/ultravan/
“Don’t forget about the UltraVan”
I wrote the best piece that exists on it (he says modestly): http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2010/11/curbside-classic-ultra-van-cross-an-airplane-with-a-corvair-for-the-most-radical-rv-ever/
I didn’t reference it in this piece, because it really wasn’t significantly influential in the RV market overall. But it’s a gem.
The UltraVan looks like a spacecraft. I can see the Robinson family shuttling along on whatever planet they were Lost In Space on. The Big W looks like the box it came in.
An RV demands a different lifestyle, one that few of us can attain, but the vehicles and their variations through the years is mind-boggling.
This series reminds me of a vehicle Chevy sold circa 1977 – 78 when we, newlyweds were seriously considering a new car purchase. The RV in question at the Chevy dealer we visited that evening in December 1977 was built on the full-size Blazer, and to us, it was a lot of vehicle in a fairly small package. That would have been a delight to travel in for somebody. I haven’t seen one since.
The car we were considering? A Firethorn red 1978 Nova 4 door. We originally considered a Malibu, but declined. The reason? Fixed windows in the rear doors! Boy, were we angry when we discovered that little irregularity!
What car did we buy? Nothing. We wisely decided to save for a down payment on a house! We made the right decision, too. We made do with her 1970 Mustang and our recently acquired 1976 Gremlin.
To me, the whole creation story of Winnebago is as interesting as their line of products. Here a link to the Wikipedia version:http://tinyurl.com/5ts8knv
We had a neighbor when I was a kid who had one of these. I think my father would have wanted one of these, but with four kids (one of which was in college or getting married or both at all times seemingly), it wasn’t going to happen…
I now live about an hour away from Elkhart, IN, and can commiserate with Jim about how the boom and bust cycle takes it’s toll on a community…
The “Blazer based” one you are talking about is a Blazer “Chalet”, there was also a Jimmy “Casa Grande” available from GMC dealers, the modular unit was made by Chinook, I think, they were really neat, and came in 4×4 only so it was great for camping, the main problem, as far as I can tell was that it was only a small r/v, there was no way to make it a “regular” K5 Blazer again, so if it was your only vehicle you were stuck driving around will all that equipment.
What about this beast here
Not sure whether I’m repulsed or awestruck by that…ummm…Cadillac? Van? Aha: Caddyvan. Hmmm, it’s growing on me, I think awestruck wins!
Correct about the Blazer Chalets, more can be found about them at http://blazerchalet.com/ , and there is an enthusiasts’ & owners’ forum for these at http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/ChevyK5BlazerChalets/
i have one of these F-17s (1971). i have great fun in it. it handles real well has real good road manners. i have rebuilt this thing from the groung up. the unit has 7″ double convoluted goodyear air bags up front, and 5″ firestones in the rear. makes a huge difference in ride, seeing that Winnebago has almost all ways loaded the rvs to just under max weight, and this chassis being a Ford (known for weak suspensions, they sag after 4 to 5 years), it helps out great. i had a D-18..the floor plan is the same but the unit is 3 to 4″ wider and sits on a dodge chassis with a real thirsty engine. the F-17 gets about 15 to 17 MPG on the road at 54 MPH. they look funny but are fun to drive, easy to park, and if yours looks as good as mine ANY RV park will welcome you…and with a big smile.
Thanks for the article!! The Winnebago you mentioned as Serial Number #001 is currently owned by Jim Khroner of Lancaster,Pa. Jim is a founding member of Classic Winnebago’s and Vintage RV’s Owners Club (www.classicwinnebagos.com), and our club raised the money from donations for him to purchase the rig after another member spotted it for sale on Ebay. We also raised enough for him to rebuild the engine and transmission, and he is still working on restoring the interior and exterior,last I heard. He hosts an annual Winnebago Jamboree on his property, and has several RV sites built there just for the occasion. He always buys a couple of old Winne’s so everyone can scavange them for needed parts during the event! He calls them “Donor-Bago’s” lol
He puts Serial Number #001 on display, and several members have been thrilled to have their picture taken in it.
It is however not the first motorhome built by Winnebago Ind., They started out building a motorhome called “Life Time Premier” in 1965, but after the deal to produce them for Life Time fell apart (it was a messy break-up btw), Winnebago decided to build their own branded motorhome. This resulted in the Serial Number #001 being built, and all those who followed.
I have a !969 Winnebago in excellent condition but cant seem to put a price on it .Do you have any suggestiions as to where I could begin to figure a price…if I decide to sell it.