(first posted 7/11/2011; updated and revised with original pictures by P. Niedermeyer) It’s hard for some of us to concede that it has now been a full generation since Japan’s Big Three decided to move out of the entry and mid level space and trespass in the tonier sport/luxury strata that once sneered at the phrase “Japanese Luxury”. If you’re experienced enough, you’ll recall when “Made in Japan” was a punchline, not a status symbol. But conventional wisdom is the one thing that you can count on to change – if you just wait long enough. So it is/was with today’s CC: The 1991 Infiniti M30.
I’ll just get my biases out front here: I think that the M30 coupe and convertible are two of the best looking cars I have ever laid eyes on. The proportions are right, the sharp, angular fender lines and the “B” pillar (on the coupe) seem to set the car in motion even while at rest. This car seems to be the Japanese take on the Mercedes 280/560 SL. That’s pretty good company to be in.
When Nissan decided to join rivals Toyota and Honda in a move upmarket in the late 80’s, it was pretty much assumed that they would need a line of cars to populate their new luxury divisions, not just a model. These were to be new car companies, with their own dealers and service organizations, not to mention marketing and advertising.
Trying to sell a single platform and make money would be well nigh impossible, so there would need to be some linemates to draw in the paying customers that might not totally fall in love with the flagship. Honda had proven this strategy as a first mover. The Vigor and Integra had charmed a different set of buyers, but had still claimed a price premium over the donor cars from down market. (Lexus would follow suit. The Camry based ES 250 shared showroom space with the world class LS 400).
Meanwhile over at Nissan, there was no question about the top rung of the sales ladder. The Q45 would debut in the fall of ’89 with a powerful V8, rear wheel drive and state of the art ergonomics and equipment. Then and now, developing two clean sheet cars is a risk that no executive wants to take, so the Q’s running mate would have to be a lash up job, a place filler until the marketplace sorted out winners and losers in the high end sales wars. Cue the M30.
The M was based on the Nissan Leopard with the main mods being left hand drive and a half liter larger displacement in the V6. The 3 liter that went in the ’30 belted out 165 HP while being eerily quiet and smooth. The only transmission on offer was the smooth-but-mushy 4-speed autobox (a major marketing faux pas). These cars were heavier than their Japanese forbears – EPA and DOT regulations saw to that.
Alas, Infiniti got off to a rocky start in the U.S. The first mistake that Nissan made was to introduce the new division with a weird, zen-like touchy feely ad campaign that made many viewers turn to the person next to them and ask what the hell it was that they just watched. For the M series, a towering $24K sticker price and no options list left buyers bewildered.
The M30 suffered from lack of any real national advertising to speak of, since it was never thought that the car would have a permanent place in the lineup. At least they got that part right- the M30 was available for the 90/91/92 seasons and then sent packing stateside, although it would be produced for a little while longer in Japan. 1992 saw the introduction of the G20, which,with 4 doors and actual options available, held more potential for sales and real profits. The M30 is all but forgotten today and survivors are cheap, even in top nick.
For the small number of these imported, (about 11,000 of all flavors), you still see a surprising number of survivors today. The mechanicals are well built and reliable. Parts are a breeze and the body was built for the long haul (although rust is known to make their lives short in the Midwest).
Related reading:
CC Infiniti Q45 – I’m Good Enough, I’m Smart Enough, and Doggonit, People Like Me
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These where never sold in Canada for some reason so it is always a treat to see one when I go to the US.
We have a few leopards and cedrics and stuff but aint seen one of these Nissans answer to Toyotas V8 fleet I guess looks ok
The M30 always looked weird to me, as if it’s really a much shorter car with extensions tacked on front and rear…
In fact, it looks like there’s an ’82 Accord hatchback hiding under that body kit.
I too am a big Nissan/Infiniti fan, but rarely because of their looks. The Infiniti above is practically invisible in my opinion and while my ’03 Maxima was near ideal in terms of driveability, the powertrain and ergonomics, it was surely not much to look at.
They make some decisions that leave me scratching my head, but overall their cars are far more interesting than Toy/Honda’s.
I always kind of liked these, though I never knew much about them. There is a very nice maroon convertible version running around my area. But you are right that for the most part, they have always been invisible.
Was this car basically a gussied up 240 Coupe, itself a Gussied up 200SX ?
I often toyed with the idea of buying one used around 1999 or so. The Leather was usually coming loose & The dashboard was dated IIRC… It was like the squared off Japanese premium version of a LeBaron or even a Fox Mustang.
I was coming out of a Cavalier Conv , this looked classy to me, What Wouldn’t?
The Leopard/M30 was not directly related to the Silvia/200SX/240SX — the Leopard was a significantly larger and substantially more expensive car even in Japan. The F31 Leopard and S12 did have similar suspensions, but that was true of most of Nissan’s RWD cars at any given point. I think the Leopard was more closely related to the R31 Skyline series.
F31 Leopards were from 1986 to 1992. When did the 240sx coupe come out?
You’re right about the memory hole. I do recall this car, and I’m old enough to remember when “Made in Japan” had the same reputation as “Made in China” does now.
Funny thing about memory is that some of the 70s and especially 80s cars featured in CC have just about dropped off my radar, but I still fondly recall cars from the post-WWII era to the late 60s.
Japanese Luxury Car.
Korean Luxury Car.
Coming soon to North America… Chinese Luxury Car?
We don’t have any “regular” Chinese cars yet. The few exported ones I have read about (miserably) failed the European crash tests. They’d better get the “regular”cars acceptable before they move on to “luxury” cars.
I know that, I’m just saying that the day of the Chinese Luxury car is likely closer than you think.
You can count on it.
I see lots of Chinese 4×4 pickups lately where Hiluxes were king maybe a car is close
Among private buyers, yes. Industry hasn’t taken to them, though. They’re still sticking with their Toyotas, Nissans and Mitsubishis.
To pick another industry, the Chinese have had 10 years to bring us a better Ipod. Or better cellphones (Iphone). They are nowhere in sight. They have been satisfied with just manufacturing them to specs (provided by an American company).
Every single ipod and smartphone is made in or pretty much 100% of parts from china. They don’t need to bother with branding or marketing because they already own the market.
Funny to see this comment almost 4 years later. The Chinese are actually making some quite good cell phones, though they’re still rare in this country, perhaps because of lack of carrier buyin. But just look at some of the offerings from Oppo or OnePlus to see phones whose feature sets and build quality are very competitive. They’re coming…
Cars, on the other hand, not so much. BYD is attempting to sell one of their cars in certain markets (they’re actually marketing them specifically to Uber drivers in Chicago) but they’ve not exactly lit things up. Another 4 years, maybe this take will be different too…
We were actually behind one of these on our way to dinner the other night. A black convertible with black top and what looked like BBS wheels. Looked pretty decent. They look dated now, but I like them!
A lady I know bought the 2 dr coupe a couple years ago. I was sitting on my porch, when she approached me and asked if I would jump start the car. The car started right away, and I commented what nice condition it was. (Cream colored with tan leather buckets, a nice car.)
Later that night, she knocks on the door and ask for another jump start. After it immediately starts, I tell her she might want to get the car looked at, for it might be the alternator or something. The next day she had a guy fixing it.
In the next month or so, this lady drove that car constantly. Chauffeuring her boyfriend, etc. Then,the car sat. After a couple of weeks, the car was not there anymore, neither was her boyfriend. The boyfriend obviously abandoned her after she could not drive him around anymore.
I still see her on occasion and say “hello”.
I came across this site because I’m shopping for one right now. I have always loved this car and I could really never put my finger on why and then I read your article and it hit me. I love the homage to the Mercedes 280/560 SL – my favorite Benz of them all. Also, it was my first car, treated myself after walking all throughout undergrad and grad school and finally decided with the help of my girlfriend at the time it’s time for me to get a car. And she said something really cool back then, something close to “I’m not materialistic but it’s nice that you got this car cause when I’m talking to friends and they ask what kind of car my boyfriend drives I’ll be able to say an Infiniti….” So needless to say I have fond memories of the ride and I’m set on getting another one. Your article was great, lots of great information….Thank you.
I have always liked the convertible M30 but the coupe M30 always looked to me like a first gen Mazda MX-6 when you looked at it from the side.
The Infiniti M30 may be best remembered in future years as the car of the running “No Lexus convertible, only Infiniti” joke in the movie “Three Kings.” I cannot think of any other way that it will be remembered, although everything that I have seen about it indicates that it was a very good car.
I have an Infiniti M30 convertable for sale (1992) White with black top
It is in reasonable condition body wise but the engine runs like a dream
I have had it since new but now I drive very little ( I am 73) It has done 100,000 miles
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Hi, I know it’s a bit late but you wouldn’t happen to still have your infiniti m30, and if so for how much
No longer have either car. Miss them. I do have what I belive are shop manuals and one grey and one brown toneau cover. If you you have any interest please let me know.
You might want to post those for sale on the FB Infiniti M-30 page:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/163091580481723/?ref=bookmarks. I am 60 and own a 91 white convertible and I would be interested in your brown toneau cover. I’m in Austin TX. You can message me through the FB page. I’m the only James there I believe.
Do you still have the manuals and covers?
I have a 91 infinite convt for sale an no rust if your still looking
Sold our two. One white, one black.. 92 and 91. Still have manuals and tonneau tops. Please contact if needed. They were very nice practical cars until parts became problematic. Also roof leaks did get the better of me. Still miss them. Think the could run forever.
How much for the left over parts?
Still have toneau covers and the manuals. Covers have been folded over, and as old as they are not perfect. Can send photos if interested.
But, I do think the manuals are rare and could be useful.
Thanks Neil!!
Please send info and pictures.
F31roger@gmail.com
Neil,
I’m interested in your items if you still have them.
f31roger@gmail.com
I’m on the verge of buying a ’91 M30 convertible locally. Do you still have yours for sale?
If you’re still looking for one, I have a very nice 92 M30 Convertible for sale. Nice paint and body, Recent timing belt, brakes, tires, exhaust, CV half shafts, ice cold air, good working top, only 135k miles. Excellent maintenance record with receipts. phone or text: Nine1Three Four6One 4Eight9Zero
Loved the infiniti m30. Likely to run forever if you find one in good condition. Do yourself a favor, or flavor as it were, park the m30 coupe/convertible in the August heat and leave only to get in after 59 minutes during which you have obtained a bowl of captain crunch. Turn car on but it is to be remained in park with A/c blasting windows rolled up. Now slowly eat your ice cold bowl of captain crunch and stare out your window. Stare. And remember the awesome year that was 1992, yet… You are to create a new moment in this moment eating cold crispy captain crunch in your vintage hot infiniti m30 coupe/convertible, though hot, has began-has begun to cool and soothe with its a/c, as you reminisce the year of bill clinton 1992.
Remember this moment. It is likely to be your best.
LOLOL
This has to be of the best comments ever left on this website – I still think of it from time to time
I’m buying a 91′ M30 Convertable with 191k miles. It runs and drives great. Gonna treat it to a new timing belt,among other things.
I’ve always liked both the M30 convertible and the coupe. I was extremely disappointed when it was discontinued. I think Infiniti got it right the first time with the Q45 and the M30. IMHO, they went downhill from then on by adding more worthless junk to the mix. Now, it’s just a shadow of its former self.
The coupe, with its greenhouse design is kind of attractive, but I’ve never been a fan of the square, generic styling that’s made more obvious on the coupe. The rear fascia almost looks like a kit car.
I remember the first, and probably only time I’ve ever seen an M30 coupe in person. It was back around 2007 or so, and to be honest, I had no idea what it was.
Funny thing. I saw one of these just the other day, on the road, with its top down, three people in the car. It looked like it was in good shape. It was white, too.
Ugh! Did they really have that tacky “Infiniti” script above the glovebox?
I disagree. When you carpet your dashboard, do it in style!
That’s quite obviously an aftermarket dashboard cover – it somehow bothers me that someone has now thought for 6 years that Nissan really did that from the factory
These M30’s were ridiculously dated upon arrival; the Leopard it was based upon debuted February 1986 in Japan, and to 1990 eyes these looked it. Lexus contemplated importing the concurrent Soarer Z20 series that was direct competition against these Leopards in Japan, but wisely saw the folly in hawking dated fashions in an image based segment. The Z30 Lexus SC that did arrive in June 1991 absolutely annihilated any image the Infiniti coupe had up to that point. M what?
The other point is that the F31 Leopard wasn’t all that terribly successful in Japan either. The Z20 Soarer was the dominant player in that segment and outsold the F31 by something like 5:1.
Paul, you have a great eye, but I just can’t agree that this is a great looking car. I found them dorky and dated looking from the beginning…they look to me like something Doris Day would have driven in the 60s, with her hair in a scarf. (My eras might be a little off.) That said, I do find them oddly appealing.
I’ve seen this one at the local diner (upstate NY) on a number of occasions. It’s in great shape, although I wish the white of the wheels matched the white of the body.
FWIW, I didn’t write this post; just provided the pictures.
I do somewhat like the coupe for being unusual, in a JDM sort of way. But the convertible top does look quite dorky.
Yeah, I saw your name re the editorial note, and it lodged in my brain that it was your piece. I’ll take up my aesthetic beef with Mr. Nelson. 🙂
But when the top is down on the convertibles it blows everything away as for looks. When your in one with the top down it blows everything away too, literally. But, if cruising down the turnpike effortlessly at 82 mph there are few that can match the comfort, the RWD feel, and the freedom. A terribly bad week can disappear in 20 minutes and then just take it all home for the weekend.
A couple of points about Infiniti M30s:
I think I’ve only ever seen white/cream colored convertibles and the coupes….don’t remember seeing any.
I remember car tests of the early 90s mentioning that these were NOT built for folks taller than average height. I once squeezed into a 96 240 SX with a sunroof….these look as bad or worse for headroom.
Are parts REALLY all that easy to come by? I mean, with 11,000 sold, this sounds like it was a very rare car when new. Mechanically they are a 300zx but otherwise. BTW, try to locate after-market wheels for these cars.
Finally, the convertible looks like a box with a hat on top of it….like they picked an “off the rack” roof design.
Nice,count me as a fan.
Kinda looks like it could be a Dodge Spirit convertible.
They’re fairly common in Southwest FLA as a snowbird car, usually piloted by the original owner. Though I have seen a riced out quasi drifter- a beyond pitiful choice, but it saved one more SC from an idiot’s modifications.
Despite the good mechanicals, the whole thing looks a lot like a Stanza coupe, and why did the fixed roof version get a B pillared top? A hard top and some nip and tuck of the body could have helped. The convertable looks too after marketish.
I liked these. When we got married, my wife had an I30, and I had a G20.
Ah, yes… The Nissan Leopard(M30), competitor to the Toyota Soarer(Lexus SC).
What, I love about these, is, parts are interchangeable with the S13 240sx… Like my 90 hatchback, I used to own.
These come with an LSD(a necessity in drifting). Think it is viscous, I forget. We used to search the junkyards, just to find M30s for their pumpkin.
I almost bought a pearl white one… Uh, did they come in any OTHER color, than this? Seems like 98% were white. Although, I have seen black and maroon from time to time.
The one I wanted to buy, sat in a field for years. I offered to buy it, but the guy was a merchant Marine, and was hardly there… Never got to start it, we couldn’t get the time to meet. Last, I heard it went for scrap. Pity. 🙁
I remember, a Japanese detective show, where the main character used a Nissan Leopard as his usual ride… It would chase the bad guys all through Tokyo. I can’t recall the title.
Interesting…the M30 isn’t wearing a LHD version of either the early or late JDM F31 Leopard dash. Rather, it’s got a LHD version of the R31 Skyline dash. Pic below is, clockwise from top-left, early F31, late F31, R31, M30. I’m quite surprised Nissan went to the bother of tooling up a LHD version of the R31 dash, as they didn’t build the R31 in LHD, but they did build a LHD C32 Laurel (the R31 Skyline’s platform-mate) for Europe that would have had a suitable dash.
The F31 Leopard is one of the very few JDM cars that didn’t turn up here en masse in years past. Don’t think I’ve ever seen one, although there are at least two here.
My suspicion is that there just weren’t that many JDM Leopards of this vintage to import. I don’t think the F31 was very successful in Japan — certainly far less so than the Silvia or Laurel.
This vintage Nissan Leopard was available with a bunch of different engines in Japan, not all at the same time: normally aspirated 2-liter V-6 (probably slow, slow, slow in a car this heavy); a turbocharged version of same with 155 PS at launch, 210 PS after ’89; DOHC VG30DE (with 185 PS or later 200 PS); and from 1989, a turbocharged 3-liter with 255 PS that was undoubtedly a lot more spry. No manual gearbox on the 3-liter cars, though — Japanese buyers in that class were about as interested in manual shifting as U.S. buyers were.
I think the M30 was handicapped by its dated architecture (it still had semi-trailing arms in back rather than Nissan’s later multilink setup) and also by being deliberately consigned to second-banana status. I assume the reason the U.S. cars got the older SOHC VG30E because they could save money by piggybacking on the existing EPA certifications for the 200SX and outgoing 300ZX and because they didn’t want the M30 to overstep its station by giving it the VG30DE from the new 300ZX, which might have put the M30’s performance embarrassingly close to the Q45’s. That’s understandable, but that kind of thinking is deadly for product planning and marketing because it immediately puts the emphasis on what the car is not supposed to be rather than what it can be.
The F31 Leopard was discontinued in Japan around the same time the M30 expired. The subsequent (Y32) Leopard, the Leopard J. Ferie, was the JDM equivalent of the Infiniti J30 sedan. Because the F31 didn’t do very well, Nissan decided subsequent Leopards should be four-door “personal sedans” rather than coupes.
In its favor, the M30 was at least designed as a premium car (even if it was architecturally dated). The G20 wasn’t a bad car, but it was basically a gussied-up Primera rather than a luxury sedan.
I actually really liked these–boxy, yes, but in an elegant way. And they did look quite good in pearl white, which is good, as most were that color. I wonder how many other colors were even offered? Black, Maroon, I think I’ve seen a green one. Maybe dark gray? Maybe not?
Granted, once the Lexus SC300/400 hit the market, these started to look horribly dated. Those SC’s were beautiful where these were merely handsome. Nonetheless if you can find one today that isn’t in bad shape, it could be a nice, cost-effective “recent classic” coupe.
A black ’91 convertible showed up on Craigslist in my area last year. They were asking $1250, hoping for a quick sale as the top had a hole in it and they lost their covered parking. Allegedly it was in great shape mechanically and the body looked straight. If I’d had a garage or even a carport (and if the interior looked straight), it would have been inside that garage or carport. Alas, I had no covered parking then, and still do not!
I am the proud owner of a ’92 Infiniti M30 Convertible. I got the black on black exterior, grey interior model from the Infiniti Dealership in Chattanooga, because at the time there was not one in Nashville, TN. It has been a wonderful car, hardly any problems, fun to drive and still looks and runs great. We replaced the top about 7 years ago and that has been about it. My 16 year old thinks it will be his to drive soon but he better think again! Love my Infiniti M30 Convertible. Granted I don’t drive it every day any longer, but plan to keep it road ready.
My wife and i owned two of these, one white, one black. Wonderful. I still have toneau covers and manuals for the convertible.
I’m glad to see that years later, the M30 has been given some coverage. 10 yrs ago when we build f31club, there was hardly anything about the car out there.
The M30 is one of those cars you dont see often. I was looking for a Q45 and stumbled upon the M30 and the guy sold it for me for dirt cheap.
During this time (2003/4), I had a civic, an rx7, a 240sx and a cressida… but nothing felt so unique to me as the M30 (I was into import tuning). In fact, the M30 became my identity when people referred to me at car meets.
While the dash is horrible (IMO) and the digital climate control has issues, I absolutely loved driving it and in the mid 2000’s, nobody knew what they were. Now, all the 240 guys buy the m30 to basically build it as a 240 for drifting. That uniqueness of having the M30 is not there as much, but it is still one of my favorite cars.
Have one brown, one grey toneau top for M30 convertible. Also, have what I believe are the shop manuals.
I may be interested, depends on price, location and shipping.
Hi
As I said, we had Two M 30s, mine black, wife’s white. I do miss mine. Re, tops and manuals
All items are in Maryland, near DC. Price on tops $50 each, but shipping could be expensive. I just do not know. They are not in greatest shape since they were folded. But overall they still look good and are a nice to have item for the car. Grey was with black interior, tan/brown with white car.
I did sell one about a year ago but the buyer had a Fedex account and sent the forms.
The books are rare and I think they could be helpful since even the dealership did not seem to know much about the cars, particularly the convertible controls. ?$25?
Look forward to hearing from you.
Neil do you have the black bag that they were kept in? I have a manual so no need for that but they are great to have. That was one thing Infiniti did was every car had a full repair manual Velcroed to the floor of the trunk. Convertibles has a second manual for top info added in the box.
One point needs to be pointed out on the M-30 pictures in the article above. The convertible shown did not come from the factory with the mudflaps. Only the coupe came with the mudflaps. The Coupe was not available in the US market with the rear wing, only the convertible came with the wing. Obviously many, including myself have made the addition to their cars. But it should be known that in a stock condition the car would be minus these parts.
They are great cars. I have 300,000 miles on mine and it’s a very dependable daily driver. New tops for the convertible are easily available but only come in the rear vinyl window style. Glass replacements are not available. The vinyl windows are available through JC Whitney for 129.00. Hydraulic top is a one finger operation to raise and lower. The top releases from the windshield and folds up in the back. All 4 windows come down at the same time. Raising the top is again all done siting in the car with the top rising and latching completely on it’s own and subsequently all 4 windows rise and seal. Both functions are quite quick in performance. For 1991 and 1992 this was ahead of it’s time.
I recently acquired a pearl white hard top M30 as my daily driver. It has 178k miles but runs great and everything works. My problem is the front strut cartridges need to be replaced. I only drive it near home where I know every bump in the streets. Infiniti is asking something like $800 for a part that should be $50.
Does anyone know of a cheap replacement cartridge? I’ve read old forums that mention F31 and other cars with the same chassis but it’s all 2nd or 3rd hand information.
I have a 91 black M30 convertible I bought when my son was born thinking it would be cool to give it to him when he began to drive. Naturally he wanted a Mustang GT instead! It has only 57k miles on it and sits inva garage year round. I wonder if it has any value as a classic at this point and would consider selling it for the right price.
I have a 1991 m30 convertible. I painted it a nice cobalt-ish blue and it is in decent condition. I bought the car with 52000 original miles on it and since then have only put on about 30000 miles on, its sitting at about 83000 right now. I have to say I have never had a more reliable car! The engine is a beast, but cosmetically, anything rubber or cloth is getting very worn, I love the car but unfortunately its not working for me. the engine alone is fantastic! I hate to sell but any one interested in buying it?? its either a fixer upper or a part out, your choice…any takers? FOR SALE…ill get a pic up soon:)
I was struck at the side view of the coupe and how much the pillars and glass reminded me of an older 6 series BMW. Perhaps just a trick of the light.
I don’t know if this is a dire insult or complimentary, but if I saw that and didn’t know any better, I would say, “Hey! That’s a fine-looking Lexus!”
My stepmom had one of these, very similar to the subject car. White with either white or tan interior. They got it used sometime around 2000 (my dad was retired and had finished redoing the summer house) from an older couple who griped that it could only hold two suitcases in the trunk when the top was down. While it wasn’t that memorable down in Atlanta, it was really the car to be styling in around SW North Carolina during the summer months when everything was green and the weather temperate and sunny. I didn’t see it much because this was the time I lived too far to make it worthwhile to get there. Eventually their profligate spending got them in trouble and they ended up selling it around 2007 since it was really a seasonal car. Oddly, after they got a substantial inheritance, she never got another convertible but got a nice Lexus E30.
Dad never talked about that car or was known to drive it much (he liked his old 1997 Lexus or content to drive his minivan (dog carrier), but after my stepmom died, he and his new gf (pop is in his 80s, and not waiting for the clock to run out) flew to TX and got a 1994 Mercury Capri ragtop with only 40K in 2019, and drove it back to Atlanta. I guess there is something about a convertible to that Greatest Generation.
Looking back an 2015… Here I am years later returning with a vengeance within the M30 world!!!
2016-2020 – I went to Japan for all the leopard meetings.
2016 – bought the nicest M30 I could find and put my JDM stuff on it.
2017 – Year of the F31 – Japan 3x for leopard meetings.
2018 – was given a convertible by a friend. Drove it to Canada for the Summer.
2019 – in Japan, Saw a Kaido racer leopard. Builder said I can have the parts.
2019 – Former magazine M30 with RB25det (in horrible condition) came into my possession at the end of the year. Rebuild the car from the ground up, rb25det fully forged and rebuilt, interior redone and digital gauge cluster from a zenki leopard done.
2020 – Pandemic sucked. But I was in Japan in Jan/Feb and I was able to secure a VIP kit for the F31 Leopard.
2021 – Projects moving FWD lol.