The Karmann Ghia was designed as the transonic model developed in a partnership with Messerschmidt. It was equipped with the Junkers Jumo 004 turbojet engine. There were plans in development with Dornier to modify the Type 2 Bus as a light bomber but the war ended before the first prototype flew.
MikePDX: By “authored”, I mean his name is on the post, not that he “authored” (made) the video. I was just trying to give him credit for finding it, since you were thanking me instead!
A long-range bomber was also planned – the only prototype crashed near Bassingbourn, and after refurbishing, it came to be known as the Vokswaffe-17 “Flying Buttress.”
By the way, that star was not correct for the Memphis Belle as she went into service on July 15, 1942. Blind as a bat gunners in the air and on the ground were shooting at anything with red in the insignia ’cause that might be a Jap, even in the UK.. As a result, that red ball was deleted. See War Department Circular 141 dated May 12, 1942.
That bouncing Beetle at the end of the video looks like it was adapted from footage of the Barnes Wallis bouncing bomb during testing.
I’m gonna watch that ’cause it’s always Hitler Week. Looking at the synopsis I’m moved to ask why a DC-4? Why not an authentic Lanc? There’s still a few if them flying. Wouldn’t it be easier to kick it out the back of a C-123 Provider or a Transall C-160?
There is one insurmountable problem with the flying car: the driving public cannot handle two dimensions without accidents. Add a third, and it’s game over.
I’m like, waitdaminnit, this can’t be true, the picture of the car unearthed is MUCH too new for that to be so!
Early VW’s didn’t have the turn signals on top of the front fenders until the late 50’s so that told me this was some kind of a joke, watching the video confirmed that…
You’re right, the semaphores were used in the Beetle until the early 60s in Europe and were phased out here in 1955. They ‘could’ be aircraft formation lights, however…
Interestingly enough, the first electric turn signals installed in the Beetle in N. A. were bullet light housings mounted just below and outside of the front headlights and the rears used one of the filaments in a 2 filament bulb in the taillights until 1958 when the front turn signal lamps were moved to the top of the fenders where they remained until 1979 and the car’s demise in Germany, Europe and N. A.
That said, when the electric turn signals were released in Europe (1962?) they followed the design set out by N. A. by adding larger taillights to the rear with a separate lamp for the turn signals (Euro models got amber lenses, US models got red) and the same front lamp housings as the US models and they largely followed suit after that.
You clearly haven’t seen the TTAC book review regarding Josef Ganz. He was promoting the idea of an inexpensive “peoples’ car” in the early 30’s and Tatra may have been influenced by his designs. Check out the photo of the 1933 Standard Superior Volkswagen.
The name “Volkswagen” is a generic name (the people’s car). And the acual VW wasn’t called VW before the war, it was called KdF Wagen. The Volkswagen name was adopted formally after WW2.
The suit by Tatra had to do with a few very narrowly detailed “borrowed” technical issues, not the basics of the car, or name.
Ganz was certainly a proponent of a small car, and had some good ideas, but having read transcripts of that book, as well as other info, the claims made in it don’t add up. His early conceptual ideas were obvioulsy not credited by the Nazis, but there were other contributors too that led to the VW. It’s way to simplistic to give anyone “credit” for the VW; it was the result of many ideas fomenting at the time. And it’s one thing to have the idea, another to actually work out the technical issues and make them workable.
Porsche rightfully gets and deserves that. But no one would claim he “invented’ all the many ideas that went into it.
Brilliantly produced video. Had me going for a moment or two until I saw the car stuck upside down in that skinny metal tower without collapsing it. If not for that, I would totally have bought those deadpan “interviews”.
LOL… WUT?
http://www.volkswaffe.com/
Marvelous find, Paul, thanks.
Actually Michael Freeman found it and authored it.
Wow! That’s quite a fine piece of work Michael! Love it.
The Karmann Ghia was designed as the transonic model developed in a partnership with Messerschmidt. It was equipped with the Junkers Jumo 004 turbojet engine. There were plans in development with Dornier to modify the Type 2 Bus as a light bomber but the war ended before the first prototype flew.
MikePDX: By “authored”, I mean his name is on the post, not that he “authored” (made) the video. I was just trying to give him credit for finding it, since you were thanking me instead!
D’oh! Nice find, Michael!
I wish I was so inventive, but only copy and paste. But thanks anyways
The Brits used Packards in the Falklands War.
A long-range bomber was also planned – the only prototype crashed near Bassingbourn, and after refurbishing, it came to be known as the Vokswaffe-17 “Flying Buttress.”
My father was stationed at Bassingbourn during WW II. I don’t recall him mentioning this.
Top secret, very hush-hush, you know (what-what).
What?
I caught that! Very sneaky reference to a very “mad” movie.
Lol, great movie
That V-17 needs a top turret. And a Petty Girl.
By the way, that star was not correct for the Memphis Belle as she went into service on July 15, 1942. Blind as a bat gunners in the air and on the ground were shooting at anything with red in the insignia ’cause that might be a Jap, even in the UK.. As a result, that red ball was deleted. See War Department Circular 141 dated May 12, 1942.
That bouncing Beetle at the end of the video looks like it was adapted from footage of the Barnes Wallis bouncing bomb during testing.
By coincidence, I just saw the teaser for next week’s Nova on PBS. It’s about Barnes Wallis’ bouncing bombs.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/military/bombing-hitler-dams.html
I’m gonna watch that ’cause it’s always Hitler Week. Looking at the synopsis I’m moved to ask why a DC-4? Why not an authentic Lanc? There’s still a few if them flying. Wouldn’t it be easier to kick it out the back of a C-123 Provider or a Transall C-160?
My understanding about the improper use of the pre-1942 star is that the 404th Tactical Paint Group simply made a clerical error…
Flying cars with no wings.
Someone’s jerking the chains of the conspiracy buffs.
That thing does not need a wing to fly. All it needs is a strong gust of wind.
“Someone’s jerking the chains of the conspiracy buffs.”
You shape-shifter reptilian, you!
I regularly dream about cars being able to fly. It somehow always seems so natural and obvious, like why didn’t I think of this before?
There is one insurmountable problem with the flying car: the driving public cannot handle two dimensions without accidents. Add a third, and it’s game over.
Hahahahahahahaha….
I’m like, waitdaminnit, this can’t be true, the picture of the car unearthed is MUCH too new for that to be so!
Early VW’s didn’t have the turn signals on top of the front fenders until the late 50’s so that told me this was some kind of a joke, watching the video confirmed that…
You’re right, the semaphores were used in the Beetle until the early 60s in Europe and were phased out here in 1955. They ‘could’ be aircraft formation lights, however…
Interestingly enough, the first electric turn signals installed in the Beetle in N. A. were bullet light housings mounted just below and outside of the front headlights and the rears used one of the filaments in a 2 filament bulb in the taillights until 1958 when the front turn signal lamps were moved to the top of the fenders where they remained until 1979 and the car’s demise in Germany, Europe and N. A.
That said, when the electric turn signals were released in Europe (1962?) they followed the design set out by N. A. by adding larger taillights to the rear with a separate lamp for the turn signals (Euro models got amber lenses, US models got red) and the same front lamp housings as the US models and they largely followed suit after that.
I thought the “Shocking Truth” was that the Idea and name ( and design?) for the Volkswagen did not actually come from Hitler or Porsche .
That has been out of bag since the 50s or so. VW actually lost a lawsuit to Tatra.
You clearly haven’t seen the TTAC book review regarding Josef Ganz. He was promoting the idea of an inexpensive “peoples’ car” in the early 30’s and Tatra may have been influenced by his designs. Check out the photo of the 1933 Standard Superior Volkswagen.
The name “Volkswagen” is a generic name (the people’s car). And the acual VW wasn’t called VW before the war, it was called KdF Wagen. The Volkswagen name was adopted formally after WW2.
The suit by Tatra had to do with a few very narrowly detailed “borrowed” technical issues, not the basics of the car, or name.
Ganz was certainly a proponent of a small car, and had some good ideas, but having read transcripts of that book, as well as other info, the claims made in it don’t add up. His early conceptual ideas were obvioulsy not credited by the Nazis, but there were other contributors too that led to the VW. It’s way to simplistic to give anyone “credit” for the VW; it was the result of many ideas fomenting at the time. And it’s one thing to have the idea, another to actually work out the technical issues and make them workable.
Porsche rightfully gets and deserves that. But no one would claim he “invented’ all the many ideas that went into it.
Ahhh…nothing like a dose of Hitler in the morning! I could say: “It takes a licking and keeps on ticking”, but Timex already owns that. Hmmm…
To quote Two and a Half Men: “It’s always Hitler week…”
Double checked the calendar. It’s still 5 January. 86 days to go . . . . . . . .
Brilliantly produced video. Had me going for a moment or two until I saw the car stuck upside down in that skinny metal tower without collapsing it. If not for that, I would totally have bought those deadpan “interviews”.
What a crock….. nice bit of “home production”