(first posted 7/2/2017) Renault long played the understudy to the leading role of innovator taken by Citroen. From the 1930s to the late 1980s, Citroen undisputedly was the leader in technical innovation and style and while Peugeot stuck steadily to its sensible knitting in the role of France’s Mercedes, Renault lived in Citroen’s shadow.
The cars were often modern, but never as technically challenging as Citroen. The range featured some all time greats and some less prominent designs, and were almost always better than the conservative products of Britain, for example. Renault challenged us, but with a more accessible nature those not technically ambitious or cautious about operating a more complex product. Renault weren’t keeping it simple but were making it easy, and that included the model naming policy.
Driving in France is, and even more was, an opportunity for a great game. Every long journey could be turned into an opportunity to play one of the car spotters’ favourite games, and it could be played on a solo journey or en familie. This, then, is the CC Guide to “Renault Bingo”. “Cut Out and Keep”, if you wish.
Naming any model within a marque structure is clearly not easy. Should you use a name, an alpha numeric code or a number? Some names work (Thunderbird, Interceptor), some work better in some places than others (Nova?), or does a name take over from the brand (Cortina, Taurus, Mini)? Does a number represent the position of the car in the range (88 and 98, 304 and 504, 80 and 100)? Or does it denote something more explicit, such as the logical number schemes used by BMW (and shamelessly aped by Rover) or Volvo (the number of cylinders and doors). Maybe an alphanumeric works best; Mercedes’ system had some logic, though this is now being diluted (and CLA220d could almost be a mobile phone or an industrial generator) or perhaps just it’s easiest to go for an unfathomable alphabet soup, as used by Lincoln?
Maybe Renault had the answer – an ostensibly simple system, just using numbers with just three simple rules. The larger the number in the current range, the larger the car; no number to be repeated on different cars; and a new model will have a larger number than its predecessor. Two of these were broken, one just once – the exceptions which proved the rules if you like.
So, get your card ready, and I’ll call them out. For ease, I’m going to account for them in numerical order, as it seems easier than chronological, size or type order.
Renault 3, 1961-62
The Renault 3, from 1961 to 1963, was an austerely decontented, low cost version of the Renault 4, and introduced alongside it. The biggest visual differentiation was the lack of the rear quarter side window, a feature shared with the 4 if the popular option of a window was not taken. Power came from a 603cc version of the 4’s 747 cc engine.
Renault 4, 1961-1992
Prior to the 1961, Renault has used either a number based on the nominal horsepower such as 4CV, or a model name such as Dauphine or Fregate. But the Renault 4 (with the 3) ushered in a new era, and in more ways than the naming policy. The Renault 3 and 4 (initially known as the R3 and R4) were not only the first Renaults to take the new naming policy, but they were also the first front wheel drive Renaults, and arguably the first hatchbacks as well.
The more well known, longer lasting and numerous is the 4, where the name linked to a nominal 4 horsepower. This was a four cylinder water cooled engine, mounted longitudinally, with the transmission, initially 3 speed and then 4 speed from 1968, mounted ahead of it, Audi style. The gearchange was controlled by the now famous umbrella like lever sprouting from the central portion of the dash, with the linkage going directly over the engine.
There were two other significant features on the 4 – it had a traditional chassis (body on frame) construction rather than a monocoque (unitary) construction. Ostensibly, this was to reduce weight and assembly costs. It also opened more options for assembly in overseas markets in from kits, and with regional variations. This South American example is one of those.
The other was the torsion bar suspension, working transversely at the rear and longitudinally at the front. The consequence of this was the famous asymmetric wheelbase, being some 2” longer on the right than the left, at 96 in against 94 inches. Overall length was 12 feet, and weight around 1500lb.
Over the years, power grew with engine size, to 845cc in 1963 and then 956cc or even 1108cc in 1978. A four speed gearbox with synchromesh came in 1968. Renault offered a van version as well, with an unusual two part rear door, of which the upper part hinged from the roof. Many of these vans are still in use and show the origins of modern compact French vans very clearly.
The interior was, I was going to say made more luxurious, actually made a bit less austere although the cramped driving position never changed. The seats folded and were sometimes removable, 2CV style.
In many ways, you can see the 4 as being a Citroen 2CV for the 1960s, rather than the 1940s, with a bit more power, more refinement and more practicality. It is also the most commercially successful French car ever, by sales volume, with some 8 million built around the world from Mexico to Slovenia to Australia from 1961 to 1992, and is still an easy catch in France.
Renault 5, 1972-1984
The Renault 5 is one of the more famous and well known cars on your Bingo Card, and arguably an all time great, and whilst it set the standard for a stylish supermini for the 1970s, it had quite humble beginnings.
Although you can’t see it, there’s a lot of Renault 4 in the 5, as this car was at one time planned to replace the 4. The engine and transmission were carried over, as were the front and rear suspension. This time, though, Renault opted for a more conventional monocoque. The wheelbase was still asymmetric, though, 94.6 inches on the left and 95.8 on the right, due to the same transverse torsion bars. To add some context, this is longer than the wheelbase of a 1974 Golf or 1980 Ford Escort
That relatively long wheelbase had advantages though – it allowed designer Michel Boué to style a car with a more elegant profile than many competitors, it helped the ride and it defined a more spacious interior than some of its contemporaries.
The 5 had an almost accidental birth, with Boué’s drawings being adopted and the requirement built around them, rather than the other way round. The polyester bumpers cum valances were a novelty, and ideal for France, where touch parking is available as a university course (probably).
The first cars, and all basic models for the French market, had the famous umbrella gearchange, which was actually a lot better than you might expect.
The engine range went from 782cc and 956cc at launch in 1972. This was a car that was sold on style, to go with most of the Renault 4’s practicality and comfort, not speed. Engines subsequently included a 1.3 litre in 1974 and then 1.4 litre from 1976 for the sports Alpine, known as the Gordini in some markets. This had 92 bhp, in the compact 5, and was the first of a series of French (Renault, Peugeot and Citroen) compact hot hatches, smaller than the Golf, but well able to keep a Golf GTi driver on his toes.
In 1978, Renault offered a five door version using the doors from the Renault 7, within the same silhouette and wheelbase.
There was also a heavily revised interior, which looked more expensive but lost some of the early 70s simplicity. Note the engine intrusion.
There a few unexpected diversions in the 5’s story. From the success of the 5 Alpine, came the 5 Turbo. Looking from the front like a 5 that was chewing a very large mouthful, this car had a 1.4 litre heavily turbocharged to produce some 160bhp, still mounted longitudinally but behind the driver, taking the rear seat and luggage space.
A completely different wishbone rear suspension taken from the Renault Alpine A310, extra wide front and rear tracks and aluminium body panels completed the car, which was essentially intended to compete in the international rally scene. The interior was quite different, and quite something, with one of my favourite steering wheels, ever.
Perhaps, you could consider it the Mini Cooper S for the 70s, but also something that experienced drivers of Porsche 911s respected for its wet weather cornering behaviour. It had some success in rallying, but came onto to the scene just as the Audi Quattro was getting into gear.
Of course, it is also well known and remembered as the Renault Le Car, sold in North America from 1976, aiming to join in the economy car market. It came with the 1.3 litre engine, 5 mph bumpers and was supported by a fun advertising campaign. It had some tough competition – the Civic CVCC was a few percent cheaper, the Starlet and Chevette were more widely available. The AMC-Renault tie -up, which started as a distribution agreement, helped, but from this distance it looks like the car was probably too different, too small and, well, too French, to truly break into America.
But it was one of the great European cars of the 1970s, succeeding as a basic car with a piece of style in its home market, and an affordable piece of modern, European design in markets like the UK.
Renault 5 (Super Cinq) 1984-1996
Music producers talk about the difficult second album. The motor industry has that issue too.
By the early 1980s, the Renault 5 was starting to lag, on space and performance, and the competition was getting stronger. Renault’s response was a combination of the Renault 9’s drive train, and a new style by Marcello Gandini, the stylist with the Lamborghini Countach on his résumé.
Gandini skilfully reworked the original ideas to create a much more modern but still definitely Renault 5, without carrying anything over. Design cues such as the tall rear lights and vent assembly, the recessed door handles, polyester bumper and valance were all recognisable, but also there is a loss of the earlier car’s raduised edges in favour of some 80s sharper edges and flatter surfaces. Successful, if derivative, and something that did not age as well as the original.
The powertrains were all different, with a transverse engine and end on gearbox across the range. I have spoken before on CC about how design concepts and vehicle configurations converged from the 1960s to the 1980s and 1990s, , and this is a classic case. The engines themselves were carried over, starting at 956cc as an entry level, then a 1.1 litre and 1.4 litre. Four and five speed gearboxes featured, as well an automatic, with varying power outputs. 1.7 litre versions were also offered in luxury trim packs and small volumes. Significant elements of these powertrains were shared with the 9 and 11 (AMC Alliance and Encore)
The wheelbase was no longer asymmetric, but the five door version did have a 2 inch longer wheelbase than the three door and the car was significantly wider than the original 5 as well.
Naming the car was perhaps an issue for Renault. By 1984, there were no gaps in sequence in which to logically position it, and the styling was (deliberately) derived from the 1972 car, so the 5 name was used again, though often referred to as Super Cinq (Super 5). It remained Renault’s main supermini until 1990, when the first Clio was introduced, a car that did in 1990 almost exactly what the 1972 Renault 5 had done, appealing as an affordable sub-compact at home and as a piece of fashionable, modern design elsewhere.
The Super Cinq was not a bad car by any means, but it was constantly in the shadow of its predecessor, and unfairly therefore has less recognition. Objectively, that may not be correct, but it happens, just as Mike Oldfield’s Hergest Ridge is always in the shadow of Tubular Bells.
Renault 6, 1968-1986
If the Renault 4 was Renault’s take on the Citroen 2CV, then the 6 was Renault’s take on the Citroen Dyane. Essentially, the same mix, with many shared components, clothed in more modern styling, and sold at a higher price. If we were talking about Ford, the 6 would have replaced the 4.
It came to the market in 1968 with the 845cc from the 4, and from 1970 a 1.1 litre 4 cylinder, familiar from the older, rear engined Renault 8. The configuration was still a longitudinal engine with the gearbox ahead of it, with the consequently inevitable umbrella gearchange through the dash and over the engine, and torsion bar rear suspension giving a classic soft French ride with plenty of roll. The wheelbase was still asymmetric.
The styling was much more modern than the 4, with some hints of the 16 in the window shapes and surrounds, but arguably it lacked the personality of the 4 and the style of the 5, and was out lived by both. Arguably, by 1980, Europe was able to afford cars that were not all about practicality above all else.
Production lasted until 1980 in France, and until 1986 in Spain and Argentina, with some variations on engine sizes to meet local taxation requirements.
Renault 7, also known as Renault Siete, 1974-1984
The Renault is an unusual Renault, for a variety of reasons. It was never built in France, or even sold there officially, it was a nominally conservative saloon against a grain of hatchbacks and was actually built by FASA, Renault’s partner in the Spanish market. FASA, later FASA-Renault as Renault increased its shareholding, assembled many models for the Spanish market, access to which was limited by political factors for many years. Ford, BMC, Chrysler and Fiat all had similar relationships with Spanish businesses
The 7 was a four door saloon derivative of the original 5, and was first drawn by Michel Boué in 1969, rather than being developed later. In addition to the boot, Boué used four doors exclusively, and to differentiate it from the 5, specified more conventional steel bumpers and a revised front grille. There was a different, if similar, interior as well.
The car was revised in 1979, with different lights front and rear, and new dash. The big news then, though, was the use of the Siete’s doors for the five door Renault 5 hatch, for the rest of the Europe.
The car was replaced in 1982 by the Renault 9, but over 160,000 were built. And finally, last August, I saw one.
Renault 8, 1962-1974
The best known Renaults of the 1960s are perhaps cars like the 4 and 16, but the rear engined Renaults were a strong seller right through from the late 1940s to the early 1970s. The 8 and later, longer 10, were the final examples.
The 8 was essentially a derivative of the Renault Dauphine, which replaced the first post-war Renault the 4CV. Work on the Dauphine started in 1949 and that car came to market in 1956, and was replaced by the 8 in 1962.
The 8 though was structurally a reskin of the 1956 car, albeit with a new engine. Unusually, it had four wheel disc brakes from launch, though Spanish assembled versions had drums, for cost reasons.
The style, distinctive, boxy and a lot more commodious than the Dauphine, was by Philippe Charbonneaux, and was developed in record time after earlier efforts had proved unsuccessful. Style wise, it has also been linked to a still born Alfa Romeo project, known as the Tipo 103 which was a front engined, front wheel drive saloon.
Power came from a 956cc, 44 bhp four cylinder, with three speed gearbox. Later versions extended up to 1.1 litre with a four speed gearbox. This version was known as the 8 Major and had a smarter interior.
The peak of the 8 was the Gordini, with 90 bhp, twin Solex carburettors and white stripes on blue paintwork as a default. Later 8 Gordinis went to 1255cc and 99 bhp. There was also a semi-automatic version, with a three speed manual gearbox controlled by push buttons on the dash and an electro-mechanical mechanism.
The 8 was also assembled by Alfa Romeo, for the Italian market. Some 41,000 were built in Italy, following on from 70,000 Dauphines.
Renault had significant rally success with the 8, and the Gordini version set the pattern for the mainstream Renaults that followed.
Production in France lasted until 1971 and sales until 1973, when the combination of the Renault 5 and Renault 12 closed its space in the market from either end, and continued until 1976 in Spain. It was also produced in Bulgaria, Romania and in Africa.
Renault 9, 1981-1989
The Renault 9 may be better known to many Curbivores as the Renault Alliance. It was a perfectly credible, if mildly anonymous, four door saloon, styled by Robert Opron, with an interior by Richard Teague, as a more conservative response to the public reaction to the 14, which this car partly replaced. It also occupied the space previously taken by the Renault 12, which had been officially replaced by the 18 and consequently moved upmarket. Renault were gently aligning their range with their European competitiors more clearly.
It also therefore breaks one the three rules – the 14 was replaced by a car with a lower number. In their defence,, Renault might point out that when spoken, 9 (or neuf) sounds very close to neuve or new.
Technically, Renault were moving to conform in other ways. The engine (1.1 or 1.4 litre initially, later also 1.7 litre) was now transversely mounted driving an end on four or five speed gearbox, and the suspension was also more consistent with other manufacturers, with MacPherson struts at the front. Renault were going rational, and clearly aiming for a wider market across the world for this car than the 14 had been able to achieve. The weakest link was possibly the engine, which was a derivative of the now aging OHV Cleon engine first seen in the Renault 8 twenty years earlier.
There were some other innovations in the car as well: the front seats were mounted not on side rails but on a central pedestal runner, so leaving substantially more foot room for rear passengers, and the rear suspension featured concentric torsion bars and trailing arms, and avoided the wheelbase mismatch.
AMC uniquely offered two door saloons and convertibles, which never made it to Europe, and no one was ever able to buy an estate version, perhaps surprisingly.
There two gentle facelifts of the Renault version over the years, with revised grilles and lights, and tweaked interiors, but as is so often the case, the later cars lost the cleanliness of design that the earlier cars had.
Production in France lasted until 1989, though production in South America and Turkey continued until 2000, with other cosmetic changes, of varying levels of visual success. The mechanical layout became a basis for later Renaults, notably the second generation 5 or Super Cinq, which used the drivetrain almost entirely, and the 19 and 21.
Renault 10, 1965-1974
You could make a case (indeed I have done) that if the Renault 8 was a France’s Beetle, then the Renault 10 was France’s Super Beetle. That comparison is a bit quick and easy, as the 8 and 10 did not form the totality of Renault’s range as the Beetle did VW’s, and the 10 did not supersede the 8 but ran alongside it from 1965 to 1971.
The commonality of the centre section was obvious; the differences were limited to a longer and restyled front boot (trunk) and rear bonnet, and a larger 1.1 litre four cylinder engine. Nominally it replaced the 8 Major and in some markets was known as the 10 Major; in some others the car was sold as the Renault 1100.
There were interior differences, too, with a smarter dash, and there was no Gordini version of the 10. The engine in the 10 came from the Caravelle or Floride sports car, although that car was based directly on the earlier Renault Dauphine.
In 1970, the 1.3 litre engine from the new Renault 12 was fitted in a detuned form, to create the Renault 10-1300. French production of the 10 and 8 ceased in 1971, Renault-FASA continued until 1973, with some sales in France as well as Spain.
Renault 11, 1983-1989
If the Renault 9 was the Jetta, then this was the Golf, albeit arriving second.
This was a 9 with a hatchback and a different front grille, featuring what now look like late 1980s Audi front lights and much closer in style to the Alliance. The hatchback itself was an all glass bubble, similar to that on the 1980 Fuego and later the Renault 25, and perhaps aping the Porsche 924, a bit. Robert Opron was again the designer, so maybe it was aping the Citroen SM. The 9 got the same front end in 1985 and both cars received a new front end, with a blank, rather than slotted, grille and larger one piece headlights in 1987.
The 11 came in 1983, two years after the 9, and brought with it the first electronic instrument panel and voice synthesiser in Europe, something that fitted well with some of Renault’s other user interface innovations on the period, like the remote control lock (brilliantly known as le plip) and the steering column mounted radio controls.
Engines were the same 1.1, 1.4 and 1.7 litre four cylinder petrol and 1.6 litre diesel as the 9, including the 115 bhp 1.4 litre Turbo.
These cars may not have been as competitive with the Golf as Renault hoped, but they were able to hold their own with many, including contemporary Ford Escorts and Opel Kadetts/Vauxhall Astras.
Renault 12, 1969-1980
The progression from Renault 10 to Renault 12 can be seen as part of the sequence of variation, conformity, and convergence, I mentioned earlier. It was also an element in Renault’s international plans, as it was the basis for the Brazilian Ford Corcel and Del Ray, which Ford inherited when the Brazilian operations of Willys-Overland, who were planning to build the car in Brazil in partnership with Renault, were subsumed by the Blue Oval.
The 12 was a more conservative and conforming car then many contemporary French cars, not just Renaults. It was a familiar enough looking four door, three box saloon, or estate, had a front mounted longitudinally mounted engine with a four speed gearbox, and a rigid rear axle suspended by coil springs.
The gearbox was mounted behind the engine, enabling a conventional floor mounted change. On early cars, the handbrake was the under dash umbrella type, by then very unusual in Europe and probably unique in the class.
It was not an adventurously engineered or novel car; if you want a quick and slightly unfair comparison, this was the French equivalent of the conservative Morris Marina, compared to the Renault 14 as the French Austin Allegro.
The usual myriad of trim options was available, but all the mainstream versions had the same 1289cc four cylinder engine, though with some variations in tune. A commodious and practical estate version was also offered, as well as panel van (sedan delivery) version of the estate.
The sporty 12TS, with high back seats was the performance highlight for most markets, though a 12 Gordini was offered in France, with a 1565 cc engine from the Renault 16. This was a car with 115 mph capability, and it came in strong colours with the obligatory stripes. The hot hatch concept, before hot hatches, and without a hatch, but with a credibility and an established following in France.
Just as retired Fiats ended up behind the Iron Curtain as Ladas and Zastavas, the Renault 12 had a long second life in Romania as the Dacia 1300. Production, in various forms of saloon, estate, van and pick up started in 1969 under licence from Renault, initially from CKD kits, and continued up to 2004. The Romanians were able to offer a two door Sport version and even a five door hatchback version as well, over the years.
Indeed the relationship which had led to the Dacia 1300 ultimately led to Renault buying the Dacia organisation in 1999 and Dacia becoming Renault’s budget brand in Europe, with cars built in Romania and India.
Renault 14, 1976-1983
I suggested that the Renault 12 was perhaps France’s Morris Marina, maybe a little unkindly, and that the Renault 14 was France’s Austin Allegro. To be fair, only odd ball styling linked the 14 and dumpy Austin, as underneath it the Renault was truly of its time, and class competitive. No square steering wheels here.
The 14, produced from 1976 to 1983, was the first Renault to feature a transverse engine and in another novel twist, shared this with the Peugeot 104. Indeed, it was essentially a Peugeot engine, and like the 104 it was mounted at an angle of 72 degrees with the spare wheel stored above it. The engine dated back to a joint venture agreement between Peugeot and Renault established in the mid 1960s, and with the larger Douvrin 2.7 litre V6 used on the Renault 30, Peugeot 604 and Volvo 264, the only results of that relationship.
The 14 was aimed into exactly the same spot and in a very similar concept as the VW Golf, which arrived two years earlier. A five door (always and in contrast to the variation the Golf and Jetta offered) hatchback, using a four cylinder OHC transverse engine with the four speed gearbox underneath, BMC Mini style, with torsion bar suspension, so it had also the Renault wheelbase variation. The style was definitely a departure for Renault, and whilst contemporary, was also polarising and not timeless. Personally, I’m quite happy with it, but records suggest many aren’t or weren’t.
Somewhat strangely, at least from this distance, Renault advertised car as La poire or the pear, based on the shape, apparently. The market reaction was not great, as the corrosion issues were becoming known and the car became known in some circles as the rotten pear. Add to that that la poire is also a French slang term for the gullible, and you can see that this should really have gone into the copywriter’s waste basket
The 14 was only ever available as a 5 door hatchback, with no diesel engine or automatic options and only a limited petrol engine choice, and you sense Renault’s heart wasn’t really in it.
The car was built in northern France, and had one gentle facelift in 1980, with revised indicators being the highlight. There were 1.2 litre 60 bhp and 1.4 litre in 60 bhp and 70 bhp versions and models included the TS (sport, 1.4 litre, five speed gearbox) and GTL (economy, low compression 1.4 litre, higher gearing) variants as well. Almost a million were built in seven years, and perhaps 200 survive in France. You’re more likely to see one like this beige car (one of the first series), than like the white second series example above.
There are fewer than 20 in the UK, for which we can blame the car’s susceptibility to corrosion. And a certain amount of apathy, which is probably undeserved.
Renault 15, 1971-1979
The Renault 15, launched in 1971, was closely related to other cars – the 17 which was an upscale version of the 15, and the Renault 12. This was a classic, salon to coupe, Falcon to Mustang, Cortina to Capri, Beetle to Karmann Ghia re-body.
The basic 15 came with the same 1289cc four cylinder engine as the 12, mounted in the same longitudinal position ahead of the wheels with the gearbox behind. The styling was completely different though, with perhaps as much 70s style as any European car – up there with Leyland Princess, Triumph TR7 and Fiat Strada for visual impact. The strong trapezoidal shape, the up turned bumper, the effective end capping of the bonnet, the way the rear bumper blends into the body (innovative for 1971), the strong colours, the big windows. There were no visual links to the 12.
The 15 was also available with the 1565cc four cylinder engine from the Renault 16 – indeed this engine was common to the most expensive 15 and least expensive 17. This model had around 90 bhp, and was good for just over 100 mph.
In Europe, the key competition was from the Ford Capri and the VW Scirocco, as well as the Opel Manta and the Fiat 124 Coupe. The 15 was a hatchback, although the rear seat did not fold down, limiting any inherent advantage.
Production continued until 1979, and the 15 never made it to North America. The replacement was the Renault Fuego, another Robert Opron styled car with a bubble rear hatch.
Renault 16, 1965-1980
Is this the greatest mid-size (for Europe) family car ever built? No doubt the CC Commentariat will have some opinions, but it has to be a candidate.
The Renault 16 (also known as the R16) was launched in 1965, and can clearly claim origination rights for the family size hatchback, with five doors and a folding rear seat. Aside from the longitudinal engine, it is a format that is still one of the most common in the market and which has been transferred to other baselines, such as the midsize crossover. Imitation came quite quickly, with the (smaller) Simca 1100 in 1967 and the Austin Maxi in 1969 being the first out of the blocks.
The car came to market as Renault’s largest car, with a wheelbase of 104 in on the right and 107 in on the left, on a car just 167in long. The long wheelbase, long travel and soft riding French car template was definitely present again. The difference in wheelbase was down to the transverse torsion bars, again. The engine was a brand new, aluminium four cylinder, initially with 1470cc, driving the gearbox which was mounted head of it.
Consequently, a floor mounted gear shift was not going to be easy, so a column change was used, one of the last in Europe, and certainly the last sold in Europe, for a manual transmission.
Initially this was a four speed but the ultimate 16, the 1973 16TX, had a five speed gearbox. Compared with the Maxi’s awkward gearchange, this may have looked anachronistic but was an absolute revelation in terms of usability.
The power unit grew other the years, first to 1565 cc and 83 bhp and ultimately to 1647cc and 93bhp for the 1973 16TX. France doesn’t really do Broughams, but with a five speed gearbox, tinted and electric windows, central locking, rear wiper and alloy wheels, as well as optional leather and air conditioning, the 16TX got close.
Ten years in, the 16 was still a credible competitor in the sector. Factor in the classic French ability to cross country without slowing much for corners, as long you can accept the roll, and you can see the appeal, and the lack of justification for any more power. The ride of the 16 was also truly exceptional. In many ways, this car performed as you might expect a smaller Citroen DS to do.
The 16 served right through to 1979, and was arguably still competitive then. Perhaps its closest competitor by then was the Chrysler Alpine/SIMCA 1307/3108, which had some of the French car attributes of comfort and surprisingly adept road manners, but lost out on interior space and refinement. The 1981 Vauxhall Cavalier/Opel Ascona C or VW Passat B2 would have been tougher nuts though, but both show the Renault’s influence, as did the Ford Sierra.
Perhaps the greatest car on this list, and sadly so rare now, even in France.
Renault 17, 1971-1979
As previously noted, the 17 was the upscale version of the 15. Still based on the underpinnings of the 12 saloon, it featured the engines from the larger Renault 16, of 1565 cc or 1647 cc. These were mounted ahead of the gearbox, rather than behind it as on the 16, and in higher states of tune.
The 17 (known as the 177 in Italy where 17 is unlucky) was visually different to the 15, with a more aggressive twin headlamp layout, frameless doors and very stylised slatted rear quarters. Style wise, it was French, with more than a hint of 70s Detroit flamboyance, and all the better for it, to stand out from the sea of Ford Capris waiting at the lights. The North American spec bumpers here don’t do it any favours, though.
The top of the range 17TS and Gordini had 108bhp and could do 112 mph; in 1971 that was serious bragging rights in the playground over a 1.6 litre Capri or Cortina GT, even if you weren’t quite sure how to pronounce the name.
The last one I saw was on a low loader on a British motorway, with an unregistered Range Rover for company; on the road, I cannot remember, either in the UK or Europe. One of my 70s favourites.
Renault 18, 1978-1989
To some people, the Renault 18 was a dull and very ordinary car. At first glance, it could have been a modern car from just about any leading European manufacturer, perhaps even Japanese except for the calm styling.
Look a little more closely, and the Renault genes are there still. The engine was longitudinally mounted, the gear box behind it and the engine sizes started at 1.4 litre, a little smaller than an equivalent Ford or Opel/Vauxhall. At its core, it was rebodied Renault 12, albeit moved gently upmarket.
The engine range was key to this movement. The 12 came as a 1.3 litre but the 18 came as 1.4 litre and 1.6 litre, from the Renault 16 and 17. The car came to market in 1978, the estate followed in 1979, and a 2.0 litre diesel in 1980.
Four and five speed manual gearboxes were offered, depending on date and model, and an automatic was available on both 1.4 and 1.6 litre cars. Certain markets, notably South America, also had an option of 2.0 litre engines.
Although the 18 looked conservative, and well in step with cars like the Ford Cortina/Taunus, Opel Ascona/Vauxhall Cavalier, Fiat Mirafiori and Morris Marina and Ital, the front wheel drive gave it a distinct difference, and one that fitted well with the long travel suspension France has been so good at for so long. The spacious wheel arches added to that, as did the three stud wheels.
Variations followed, with different markets getting many specific tweaks. American markets got the usual uncovered headlights, the estate was sold as the Renault 18i Sportwagon and Europe got something called the 18 American with two tone paint, alloy wheels and a plush interior trim.
The highlight for Europe was the 1980 18 turbo, with a turbocharged 1565 cc engine, rated at 110 bhp, improved suspension, sports interior and some of the best alloy wheels I can recall. This car also shared an interior with the Renault Fuego coupe.
Here, then, was a car that competed more closely with the format set by market leaders outside France, and fitted in well with a new generation of Renaults. It was perhaps the first Renault to truly conform to a market standard, was better than many in its class and was sometimes overlooked and underrated.
And sadly, many are now like this.
Renault 19, 1986-1996
The 19 was Renault’s second attempt at a true Golf competitor, succeeding the 9 and 11 (Alliance and Encore), and also the last Renault to bear a number.
Launched in 1988, it came with 1.2, 1.4 and 1.7 litre transverse engines, end on gearbox, usually five speeds or a three speed automatic. The 1.2 litre and base model 1.4 litre used the old OHV Cleon engine from the 9 and 11, but the smarter 1.4 and 1.7 litre cars used a brand new overhead cam engine, known as the Energy range (who says the Japanese have an unique take on odd names?), and the cars were badged accordingly.
The styling was by Guigaro, although Renault did not admit this immediately, which carried over a development of the rear hatch bubble from the 11. Suspension was by MacPherson struts and a torsion beam rear axle, with front disc and rear drum brakes. This was a pretty typical specification for such a car in Europe at the time.
To meet varying buyer choices and preferences, Renault offered three door and five door hatches and a four door saloon, initially known as the 19 Chamade, which used the rear doors of the five door hatch.
There was also a Cabrio version from 1991, built by Karmann of Germany,
Renault developed a very credible Golf GTi competitor in the 19 16V (also known as the 16S in Francophone markets), using a 1.8 litre 135 bhp engine, allowing 130 mph performance.
The 19 16V, in saloon form, was the basis for a reasonably successful saloon racing car in the British Touring Car Championship (known as the BTBCC), competing with similar race modified cars from many makes, and an integral part of Saturday TV viewing for many for several years. Just in 1993, Ford, Vauxhall, Toyota, Peugeot, Nissan and Mazda lined up alongside Renault. The next year, Volvo joined in too, with the 850 estate. Great fun was had by all.
These were mine – a 1990 1.4 GTS hatch, with the five speed gearbox. It may not have a been a sports car, but it was well able to provide a comfortable solution to a long journey, and handled better than you might expect a softly sprung Renault to do. The cooling system was a bit doubtful, though. After a coming a poor second against a Volvo 740 estate, I replaced it with a 1993 Series 2 RN1.4i, which did 137,000 miles quite happily.
Space wise, the 19 was more than a match for a contemporary VW Golf or Ford Escort, having a lengthy 100 inch wheelbase and a huge boot.
In 1994, Renault refreshed the front and rear with the predictable new head and taillights, and for left hand drive markets, a new dashboard. Fuel injection, power steering and other additional equipment spread across the range, with the effect that the car was significantly better equipped than a comparably priced Ford. Features like Renault’s Plip remote central locking, electric sunroofs and steering column radio controls were available relatively low down the range.
This car has another important place in Renault’s history – the platform was carried over to the 1996 Renault Megane, and thereby the basis for the first generation Renault Scenic, the first compact monospace/MPV/minivan.The 19 also carried Renault’s flag in the 1990’s diesel boom, with a 1.7 litre turbo-diesel showing how diesel did not have to slow, but could also provide the more powerful and performance oriented option within the range.
Arguably underrated, against the Ford Escort and Opel/Vauxhall Astra, Austin Maestro and Fiat Tipo, if not the Golf or the Rover 200 (R8), production ran to 1996 in France and to 2000 in Turkey and Argentina, and it is a common sight still across Europe.
Renault 20, 1975-1983
The Renault 20 was the four cylinder derivative of the earlier Renault 30. The Renault 30, which we get to later, was a large step upmarket for Renault, taking the company into hitherto uncharted territory. It fitted a lot better into the range once the 20 was introduced, later the same year.
In principle and in the model range, the 20 replaced the 16, using a combination of the engine from the top of the line 16TX and the body of the 30, a combination of modest engine and larger body that worked well for many manufacturers. Think of the Opel Rekord and Opel Commodore or the Ford Granada and Taunus ranges for example.
The issue the 20 had was that it was substantially bigger than the 16 – it was 12 inches longer, 4 inches wider and 600lb heavier. It was also an unambiguous derivative of the Renault 30, presented just 8 months earlier as Renault’s new executive car.
The first cars came with the 1647 cc, 90 bhp engine from the 16TX but the larger body of the 20 led to much lower power to weight ratios and early models would not get much past 90 mph. Renault, you feel, sensed something was not right, as the 16 was kept on alongside its nominated replacement for a full five years.
The car was gently, if unremarkably, developed. A much needed 2.0 litre engine was added in July 1977, as the 20TS, with 109 bhp and smarter trim, addressing another issue on the early cars. This grew to a 2.2 litre, 115 bhp for the 20TX in 1980, and the 1.6 litre cars were discontinued. All engines were mounted longitudinally, with the gearbox behind and driving the front wheels, usually through a four speed or later a five speed gearbox. Automatics were available, but take up pretty low.
Style wise, the 20 can best be described as plain, with little of the flair or originality that the 16, for example, had. A basic 20L was a pretty Spartan place to be. Again, we see the Renault of the late 1970s not wanting to stand out like the company did in the 1960s or the early 1970s.
Perhaps the best comparison point for the Renault 20 is the Austin Ambassador, a hatchback derivative of the BL Princess, another car which was arguably too plain, frequently underpowered and focused on space and comfort, not excitement. The 20 was more successful, but arguably did not replace the 16 in the eyes of the French, and many others. It sold pretty well, but not on any emotional factors. Buyers choosing under those influences bought a Citroen CX, launched just a year earlier.
And they didn’t have to cope with upside down door handles, as the first cars had
Renault 21, 1986-1994
This account has shown how the later Bingo Years were the period of growing conformity to Euro-norms for Renault, and the 21 is another part of that trail. Here was a car that was directly competing with the VW Passat, Ford Sierra, Peugeot 405 and a host of others.
Spacious four door saloons, very spacious estates, a (slightly later) hatchback, Giugiaro styling, a range of 1.7, 2.0 and 2.1 litre petrol engines, petrol or diesel, five speed gearboxes, a clear range of trims and features, a halo 21 Turbo model – all the factors you’d expect.
And a model range that had four differing wheelbases, depending on the body and engine chosen. The 1.7 litre (and later 1.4 and 1.6 litre versions produced in Turkey, Portugal and South America) had transverse engines with end on gearboxes, essentially the drive train of the 1. 7 litre versions of the Renault 19 and 11, and a wheelbase of 105.7 inches.
The 2.0 and 2.1 litre versions had longitudinal engines with gearboxes behind, in the same manner as the as the 18 and 20, had a wheelbase of 102.4 inches. Overall length was exactly the same; the only visual difference was the location of the front wheel arch, which took some practice to call out accurately.
The first variant was the four door saloon, with rather angular and arguably nose heavy Guigaro styling.
This was followed quickly by the equally polarising estate, sold as the Nevada in many markets and Savannah in the UK, where the state of Nevada had reserved rights to the name. The estate was longer in wheelbase than the saloon, by almost 6 inches, giving wheelbase of 110.6 inches and 108.3 inches for the transversely and longitudinally engined cars.
More visibly apparent was that the extra length gave either a truly class leading luggage capacity, on a par with a Volvo 240 or Citroen CX estate, or the possibility of the factory option of a third row of seat, suitable for two, probably children. France has a long history, from the Peugeot 403 onwards of providing seven (or more, if you didn’t worry about seat belts) seat estate cars, and the 21 was the last one, as the concept was superseded by the MPVs/minivans.
In 1991, Renault did the obvious and added a hatchback option to the range, based on the saloon models, and matching them closely in terms of models, options and equipment. Looks are always subjective, but the long nose was emphasised by the shorter tail. There was also a Turbo version of the transverse engined car, with a full leather interior and wheelbase just a few millimetres off the two wheel drive car. So, actually, six wheelbase options…
The 21 made it to North America, first as the Renault and then as the Eagle Medallion. The cars were imported from France, with the 2.2 litre longitudinally mounted engines and five speed manual or three speed automatic transmissions. It was offered as a saloon and as a station wagon in both 5 and 7 seater forms. Sales lasted for just three model years, from 1988 to 1990, partly for reasons linked to Chrysler’s takeover of AMC and the obligation to purchase a fixed quantity of the larger Eagle Premier model.
Production in France ended in 1995, and in 1996 in other countries, notably Turkey, Argentina and Columbia.
Now a rare sight outside France, and in definite beater and banger territory. Still seen as a daily driver in France, though, and you suspect it will be for some years to come.
Renault 25, 1983-1992
This was perhaps the last attempt at a distinctive large French car until the Citroen DS5 of 2011.
The 25 replaced the 30 and the 20, hence the name sitting in the middle and breaching one of the naming guidelines Renault had established, and it inherited many of those cars’ features.
It was powered by either a 2.0 or 2.2 litre four cylinder engine or the Douvrin (Peugeot-Renault-Volvo) V6 in 2.9 or 2.5 Turbo litre forms, all mounted ahead of the front wheels driving through a five speed manual or three speed manual gearbox. The cars were all hatchbacks, with another iteration of the glass rear bubble hatch by Robert Opron, and an interior by Marcello Gandini.
Of course, diesel engines were available, and the 2.1 litre turbo diesel is probably the engine of the majority of survivors, along with a manual gearbox. The automatic gearboxes are notoriously fragile, apparently.
There was one, substantial, facelift in 1988, which either significantly modernised the car or removed most of its character, depending on your point of view. That character was strongly linked to a plush interior and soft ride – this was not a BMW 5 series or even an Opel Commodore with a French accent but another comfortable, spacious and practical car.
One notable user was French President François Mitterrand, whose official car was a 25 Limousine, with a 9 inch stretch in the wheelbase, and an armoured conversion, which apparently included fuel injectors under the B pillars to act as flame throwers to deter rioters. Just in case.
The 25 begat the Eagle Premier, as AMC and then Chrysler Americanised the 25 for North America, with a different, four door saloon body designed by Giorgetto Giugiaro, an AMC interior, some changes to the suspension and AMC engines , and which was built in Bramalea.
To keep up with the volume Renault required Chrysler to build, Chrysler added a Dodge Monaco version. You can infer that it probably never truly met expectations, and the styling may not have helped. Bland but with some odd proportions seems to be the impression.
Premier and Monaco production ended in December 1991, although there was some commonality carried over into the Eagle Vision and other Chrysler LH derivatives.
The 25 itself retired in 1992, and was replaced by the entirely forgettable Renault Safrane.
Renault 30, 1975-1984
As mentioned, this was car that took Renault upmarket for the first time since the end of WW2. Renault wanted to go upmarket and gain some of the larger car, higher margin sales Ford, for example, were taking with the Granada or Opel with the Commodore.
If the Renault 20 was aimed at the Peugeot 504, may be the 30 was aiming at something closer to a Rover 3500.
The 30 was a practical, slightly anonymous hatch back body over a front wheel drive format, with the PRV 2.7 litre V6 mounted ahead of the front wheels in Renault’s favoured style, driving a four speed gearbox or three speed automatic, with all round disc brakes.
The interior came with all the luxuries 1975 could offer – electric windows, central locking, and a sunroof. For many markets, Renault fitted a wood veneer (unusually for a French brand) dash and majored on plush trim materials.
Suspension was double wishbone at the front, single wishbone at the back with anti-roll (sway) bars. The car had 131 bhp and performance was not that great – 115 mph was nominally available but it took some time to get there, and economy was no more than 24mpg. The consensus seems to be that it was a cruiser, not a sprinter, but that suits France.
The later, 1980, 30 TX had fuel injection and a five speed manual gearbox option, and the interior fully refreshed, in a full 1980s style and finish.
Production ended in 1983, and the 20 and 30 family was succeeded by the 25. But there is an undeniable appeal to this combination of French chassis design, almost aping Citroen in comfort, with an interior that is a close as Renault got to the 70s take on the Brougham, and as about as far from the Renault 3 as France would ever go.
The Renault range, from 1963 to 1988, can be seen as a clear example of the convergence in format and execution in the European market. During those years, VW moved from air cooled engines, Fiat from rear engines, BMC/BL from gearbox in the sump front wheel drive and hydrolastic suspension, Ford and Opel/Vauxhall from very traditional rear drive layouts, and with Renault developed, as we have seen, to the front engine, front drive layout, often with a transverse engine with an end on gearbox, strut front and twist beam rear suspension, predominantly hatchbacks up to 1600/2000 cc. Renault thereby have given us an almost text book study of this, and an entry into the social, economic and political changes in that period.
However, the end of the numbers does not mean Renault has ceased to innovate and challenge, or dare to be different. As the number cars ended, the MPV/minivan/monospace Espace and Scenic rose to define those market spaces in Europe, and Renault gave us perhaps the best 1990s take on the original Mini with the first generation of the Twingo. Now, more than 20 years after the number cars were retired, Renault is Europe’s leader in pure electric vehicles, with the Zoe, Fluence and delightfully different Twizy.
And you can still play the game. Bottle of Chateauneuf du Pape and cuisses de grenouilles for the winner!
During my uni years, one of my mates was a big Renault fan… coming from a ~66 Dart. So I had seat time in his chrome bumper 1600 R18 and 2.2 pre face-lift R21. Super comfy cars, the handling was beautiful, specially on the R21… which also had leather seats.
Now… bleeding the cooling system in either of them was a ritual not for the uninitiated.
Another mate had a R19 16S. What a cracker of a car.
And yet another had a 1.4 R11 when we started. Sadly the engine was not big enough to move the car, but the chassis was good and the seats, again, very comfy.
Another class mate had an early Fuego, but I’ll stick to the RXX cars here.
Rode several times in R19 taxis, usually w/ the 1.4 EFI engine.Sturdy little car, again, very comfy inside.
When I was a kid I remember taking a couple of rides in a R12 station wagon. The internal door handles always puzzled me. The car was very different from dad’s American iron.
The R30 launched in that corner of the world had exclusively the V6 engine and was sold as a luxury car. By the end of the 90’s, very few were still on the road.
The R21 and the R19 16S convinced me that Renaults had the best ever seats… until, many years later, I sat in a Volvo.
The last 2 Renaults I sat in that life were a 1st gen Twingo, which is simply GENIUS and one of the early Logans, which despite being ugly outside, was a really comfy and competent car.
And that is my Renault story 🙂
Sorry, but I only had a chance to read a fraction of this excellent write-up. Could there be a similarly detailed examination of Citroen in the future?
From a glimpse at the pictures, it’s my opinion that most of the Renaults of this time period were decent looking cars….but the looks suffered when they were “facelifted”. As badly as many folks in Europe think a hatchback that has had a trunk added looks, THE worst looking example has to be the Renault 7. The “slope nosed” Renault 10 looks “wrong”, too.
Have to say nearly all the instrument panels pictured look….interesting.
Some people call hatchbacks with trunks added as “Turkish sedans” due to most of them being manufactured there. Such cars mostly popular in Eastern Europe where it is still commonly held that a proper car has a large trunk. (Also the added loading capacity is a big bonus).
While the 7 is not beauty queen, but it still looks thousand times better than the 1st generation Renault Thalia/Symbol.
“Such cars mostly popular in Eastern Europe where it is still commonly held that a proper car has a large trunk. (Also the added loading capacity is a big bonus).”
In many parts of LATAM, this is also true. Car with boot = más carro (or more car)
A car with a big boot equals more trunk space? That would only seem to be the case if the rear seats of that sedan folded down. In my Crown Victoria the rear seats don’t fold, therefore I can load a large volume of stuff, but it can’t carry the large ladder my much older Civic sedan with a folding rear seat carried.
A big plus for hatchbacks is that they can often carry bigger/bulkier items a sedan can’t carry. Another plus for hatchbacks is that the room that is available is more easily accessed than in a sedan with a trunk.
Cars that are originally styled/built as hatchbacks almost always have a sedan derivative that looks bulbous. VW seems to be the only car company that gets the styling of the sedan “right”.
A Crown Victoria is unique in that you can carry two trash barrels standing up with the trunk lid closed. They have very deep trunks.
Usually when a hatch gets converted to a sedan, some rear overhang is added. The decklid tends to sit higher than if the car was originally designed as a sedan.
So yes, you get a more spacious boot. For example, MKIII Jetta vs MKIII Golf, Fiat Siena vs Palio, Renault Symbol vs Clio, Corsa B sedan vs hatch…
Joining in for Israel, although those are now slowly being edged out by the small SUV as the car of choice.
Excuse me for being curious. Where in Hispanic Latin America one says “carro” for an automobile instead of “coche” ? Brazil is not Hispanic…
In Venezuela and Colombia they call them carro, in Argentina, auto, in Mexico, coche. Dunno the rest.
In Southern California, carro seems more common, although I suppose it depends whom you talk to.
Same in Brazil, until the 90’s a very few hatchbacks could escape from the bias against that kind of body design.
Excellent article. Here’s an interesting 1966 American ad for the Renault 10 that basically apologized for the earlier cars.
A neighbor who ‘baby sat’ me (I was in my early teens, dammit! Thanks mom!) had a 10 that I rode in quite often. It is one of my favorite Renaults with very comfortable seats, a very nice ride, and credible performance with the competition for its day.
The one big reason they weren’t a success was the Dauphine. Which had that bad a reputation in the states. By the mid-60’s, the Dauphine was the predecessor of the Yugo as far as reputation went.
You don’t see many adverts like that!
More like a “series of swipes”, poorly disguised as an apology.
Fantastic work and quality of research here Roger. Thankfully, many of these cars found their way to Canada. As French Canada loved Renault. The R5 being the popular seller, when I was a kid.
“Accroche-ti Caroline!” by Claude Vasori seems like a perfect song to accompany viewing your Renault gallery. The ‘Vision On’ theme.
There was also some good ads, the R5 in Quebec was often referred as “Le Chnac” in tv ads.
Thank you! I remember those Renault ads from before and after Radio-Canada Expo games.
A wonderfully written article, about one of my favorite brands of the 70’s and 80’s. Lord knows how I attempted to own a Renault back then. Lord knows how fate conspired to keep me from owning one (the used 5 I test drove caught fire?). I think life was trying to tell me something.
I will claim one nitpick: The 15 was available in the states, sold alongside the 12 and 17. I still have fond memories of the Erie, PA dealer (out on PA route 5 in the western boonies) consisting of an run-down post WWII service station with the office large enough to be a showroom for one car, three more new models sitting in the lot, and the place overrun with un-mown grass, and stripped down semi-exotic European parts cars and customer repairs (often the same thing).
And you wonder why Renault failed in the US? My cycling partner, fellow acid head, and the one guy who traveled to Cleveland for rock concerts with me seriously looked at buying that 12. The sketchiness of the dealership was probably the biggest factor in his settling for a late model Volvo 245 instead.
In the US, the 15 was available with manual and automatic transmissions. The 17 was manual only, and had something of a reputation as a low-buck Porsche 911 killer. Well, serious harrier, anyway.
Excellent read, even if the convincing thesis on convergence is slightly depressing.
The Dacia 1300 was also available in pick-up truck and was made until 2007. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dacia_Pick-Up The R12 was also “COTY” in Australia by Wheels magazine in 1970. Just imagine what if the R12 was offered as a ute in Australia?
The R5 was also sold in Iran but only the 4-door model. The newest model got a R5 body with Kia drivetrain.
http://boitierrouge.com/2015/09/09/pars-khodro-sepand-pk-une-drole-de-renault-5/
http://archive.wikiwix.com/cache/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.renault-5.net%2Fr5_iran.htm
The R6, R12, R16, R9 also got a longer lifespan in South America.
COTY the 12 may have been, and it was undoubtedly a better car than the British opposition and more technically advanced than the Japanese, but in hard service they proved to be somewhat fragile here. My country cousin had no end of trouble with hers, to the point where the local auto club mechanic cheered when she told him just to get it going one last time so she could drive it to the wrecking yard.
I can find most of them. Actually there is a 18 (special edition called American) around.
But unfortunately, the 7 can almost only be found by B234R or Ibizaguy! And I’m in their neighbor country!
I have ridden in an R16 and an Eagle Medallion. Both had very comfortable seats. Others have commented on Renault seats. I don’t know or care what half of the buttons on a new car do but I do appreciate a comfortable seat. I wish more cars had them.
Another enormous tome from Roger. S1 loop bumper 15 for me, but I do like that 17 binnacle.
I was thinking as I was looking at the R15 photos that it would be your cuppa.
What a fine article! Thanks for this – I learned a lot about Renaults here.
A colleague of mine had a Le Car in around 1981-82. It was light on its feet and economical, fun to throw around corners. Unfortunately it was beset with numerous reliability issues and component failures even though it was less than three years old. Sometimes it would start but wouldn’t move, other times it would not start. It did not have a warm interior in cold winter months.
Another colleague, in the same department, had a Lada. Best to leave that commentary to another day. Like they say, if you can’t say anything nice….
This write up is better than any book on Renault. Excellent. I fell in love with Renault when u first saww the gordini. 17 with slider fabric sunroof. I was maybe 14. Love renaukt if the 70’s.
An terrific way to start a Sunday morning. Quite comprehensive and informative, and I definitely learned a lot reading this.
I can only imagine the time you spent preparing this. Great work!
He doesn’t get out much Jason
Yet another superb article by Roger. One minor correction – the Renault/Eagle Medallion was imported from 87-89, not 88-90. They were extremely rare, even when new, and I last recall seeing one around 1995. Good luck finding one now, though Paul did find a running specimen in Eugene.
Great article, but to pick one nit: A number of the FWD Renaults had the transmission ahead of the longitudinally-mounted engine, but this wasn’t Audi style. Turn the Renault engine-transmission 180 degrees, and you’ll have the Audi configuration.
Nice loooong read full of very familiar cars. In my family, there were a few Renaults over the years — you can’t help that if you live in France. I remember riding in the R4, the R5, the R15, the R9, the R30, the R21 and the R19.
A couple of things raised my eyebrow — the R16’s column gearchange being “the last one in Europe”? Is that when production started in 1965, or when in stopped in 1980? Either way, you’re forgetting the Peugeot 504. Launched in 1968 with a four-on-the-tree, which later went to the floor in the plusher cars but remained arboreal in the base “L” saloon, as well as most 504 wagons and pick-up trucks. The last of those were made (in Europe) in 1994 and I believe they usually came with a bench seat.
And in labelling the R25 as “the last distinctive large French car until the 2011 Citroen C5”, you’re being a tad harsh on the XM, the C6, the 607 and (even though I don’t like the design at all) the Vel Satis. But then, that’s more of an opinion…
One final number that might be added to the bingo: the R40. It was styled by Renault (probably Gaston Juchet) in the early ’70s; at least a dozen prototypes were made by IKA circa 1972-73, using Torino (AMC) chassis and mechanicals, though they were planning to put fuel injection on the 3.8 litre six. But Yvon Lavaud, IKA’s boss since Renault’s takeover in ’67, died on Varig flight 820 in July ’73, which left IKA rudderless for a while. The R40 never did get off the ground, which explains why the Torino carried on for as long as it did.
Wow! That 40 looks like it would have been a cool car! French style and American machinery-the best of both worlds. If only…
+1!
Lord! A Renault 12 on anabolics with a Kaiser engine and Rambler chassis! As they say: there no sin under the Equator…
I accept the XM could be classed as distinctive and also the C6 although it wasn’t aiming for a high volume, but the 607 wasn’t, and that was part of its problem.
I suggested the DS5 as that was a new pitch in size and configuration.
Wow; this was an unexpected treat on a Sunday morning. Bravo, Roger! An excellent treatise on a big subject.
Always had a soft spot for Renaults, which was greatly enhanced by one of the engineers at the tv station in LA who had a lovely R16 that I rode in several times. I was very deeply impressed, and there’s no doubt it led directly to my first (of a number of) Peugeot 404s. I saw the challenges he had in keeping it running, so I chose wisely by going with the more durable Peugeot. But I loved that 16, and still do. One of the all-time great cars of the post war era.
I remember being quite stunned by the introduction of the R5 Turbo when I picked up the latest copy of Road & Track in November 1980.
A legend in its own right, and it actually did get some sort of spiritual successor, the 2001-2005 Renault Clio V6 Renault Sport. It had a 3.0 liter V6 rear mid-engine, 230 hp in the Phase 1 and 255 hp in the Phase 2.
Great job Roger! I really enjoyed it to the fullest, and you certainly got a superb photo-collection of genuine CC Renaults.
Great read, Roger! I seriously had to take a nap when I was done. I don’t have a lot of direct experience with Renaults, but have appreciated them from afar.
I had to laugh, I remember the hoopla here in the US when the R5 Turbo was introduced; it’s funny to think all these years later we have 160 HP hatchbacks (Fiesta, 500 Abarth) and they’ve just become part of the landscape.
One of my Croatian cousins had an R4 years ago. It was way different than the Benzes and Audis my other cousins owned. When loaded, it was slow and I distinctly remember the body lean in the car. It didn’t bother them much, but even with my American background I thought it was a bit severe.
Thanks again for the comprehensive write up; I’d be interested to see another one of the more recent Renaults. The new Alpine is a gorgeous car.
…”it’s funny to think all these years later we have 160 HP hatchbacks (Fiesta, 500 Abarth) and they’ve just become part of the landscape”…
Quite right. In 1995 I bought my first brand new car, a Ford Escort GT with a 105 hp 1.8i 16v engine. Not bad, back then. There was also a dark-blue metallic hot hatch 150 !!! hp Ford Escort RS 2000 (so with a 2.0 liter engine) in the showroom. I was really tempted to buy one. Alas, it didn’t happen, the reality-check was the more than 15,000 Dutch guilder (our pre-€ currency) price difference…
Back to Renault. From a 160 hp 1.4 liter turbocharged engine in the R5 Turbo to today’s 220 hp Renault Clio RS Trophy with a 1.6 liter turbocharged powerunit. With a front-engine, of course. As practical as all other Clios.
In 1980, A neighbor gave me a faded-red, grey-market 1973 Renault R6-TL hatchback. It had been given to him for his teenage son, but had a serious coolant leak and a ‘mechanic’ said it had a hole in the cylinder-head. So I wound up with the car.
It turned out to just need a coolant hose under the intake manifold. However, I had to fix a number of other problems to make the car legal and eventually sell it, including changing the amber French headlights for US-legal ones, a rear tag-light unit, front brake-pads, a new half-shaft, and repairing the rusted body around the rear door latches. Fortunately, the brake-pads and half-shaft were the same as the LeCar, so they were available new. The rest, I was able to adapt from salvage-yard parts.
It was a cheap, tinny little car, but everything worked and it ran well.
I remember the skinny 145sr13 Michelin tires it came with, and how it leaned in the corners, but it had nice seats and a fantastic ride. And, the umbrella-shift in the dash worked really well – much better than the horrible, rubbery floor-shift US-market LeCars were afflicted with!
I wound up selling it for a modest profit, to a friend of a co-worker. Several months later, my co-worker reported his friend got drunk one night and plowed it into a tree!
Happy Motoring, Mark
The first car my dad bought ( he had grandpa’s 1951 international pick up at the time for work) was a Renault 12 wagon. They were doing kitchen renovations when they found the last owner of the house had hidden some cash in the wall. So they bought a car to haul me and my brother around. He said it was a great car except that it would boil over only on a cold winter day. After that my mom got a dodge colt wagon, Subaru wagon, ford escort wagon and finally moved over to an Astro mini van which they still own.
Good heavens Roger, this is surely the exhaustive overview of Renault in that period!
I have virtually no direct experience with any of these. I wonder if there is another example of a car so successful around the world yet so singularly unsuccessful in the US. Over so many years and models, Renault just never got traction here. Not even its tie-up with an American manufacturer could do the trick.
This article was a wonderful tonic for this Renault fan!
It could also be mentioned that the two-door R9 was available in the US as the “GTA,” with a two-liter engine, suspension modifications, and what were considered low-profile tires at the time.
These two were mine …
… and, earlier, this was my R5, with Canadian-market “La Cinq” lettering on the doors, a British “R5 Gordini” badge, and a friend …
Nice collection!
An excellent summary indeed – thank you. I have only two minor niggles:
As Syke points out, the 15 was available at least in Canada – one of my father’s (post-divorce) girlfriends had a 15 in Montreal, where French cars were always more common. One of my high-school English teachers replaced her elderly 2CV with a Renault 5L (with the umbrella-handle gearshift, and not named “Le Car”) in about 1977.
And when you say the 25 “was perhaps the last attempt at a distinctive large French car until the Citroen DS5 of 2011”, surely you’re forgetting the Citroen C6?
I assume Roger meant to say “most recent introduction” with “last”, in which case the 2011 (Citroën) DS5 is correct. Then again, what about the later, current model Renault Espace crossover?…
But the days of French executive cars (E-segment) are over, I’d say. And the R25/Safrane, Peugeot 607 and Citroën C6 were true French representatives of that segment, while the DS5 is certainly not a Mercedes-Benz E-Class (King of the executive cars) competitor.
“Production continued until 1979, and the 15 never made it to North America…”
Wrong. I bought a ’72 Renault 15 from a Chicago area Renault dealer in 1973, and it was a pretty, and pretty satisfactory, car…as I recall the door latches liked to loosen and rattle, but that was it. For some reason the high beams were bright enough to peel paint (everyone who drove it noticed this). The 17 was imported here as well, and sold in small numbers. The one I really wanted, of course, and featured in your ad shot, was the Alpine A310 in the 4-cylinder version with the flamethrower rally lights across the front. Not imported officially, but desirable. It was really an Alpine, not a Renault, and doesn’t fit their numbering system either. But with 140 hp from the injected 4, light weight, and sleek Trevor Fiore-penned lines, it offered 911 performance with 912 fuel economy. Also, the radiator was in front, a sensible move when you hang a water-cooled engine out behind the rear axle. Prices have gone up a bit, but nothing like the A110; the A310 may be one of those underrated soon-to-be-classics…
I think its fair to say Michel Beligond, Yves Legal and Gaston Juchet can also lay claim to the A310 shape alongside the still never-officially-confirmed (but probably primary) hand of Trevor Fiore.
https://www.curbsideclassic.com/curbside-classics-european/curbside-classic-1971-76-alpine-a310-bittersweet-edge/
An A310 graces the company car park a couple of times per year here. Beautiful car
As of 2017, its even harder to imagine that Renault which also owns Nissan and via Nissan, now owns 34% of Mitsubishi was formerly tied with Chrysler (now owned by Fiat). Its incredible to imagine how the Automotive World Landscape had changed drastically in terms of alliances and acquisitions. Ironically prior to Chrysler absorbing AMC into its fold, Renault had one time also acquired AMC as well during the early 1980s and imported some of their small cars through AMC/Jeep Dealerships. In addition, now Mercedes Benz (formerly used to own Chrysler along with Mitsubishi and Hyundai (Kia Included)) also continue to have interest partnership with the Nissan Renault group.
Early morning here. When I saw that second photo, I tried to remember which Renault the 78 was.
More coffee!!!
That would have made for a very long piece!
This is an outstanding piece, Roger! As one who has crafted many a Magnum Opus here at CC, I can appreciate the many hours of research and writing you put into this!
One of Roger’s best efforts. Now at last I’ll be able to keep all those numbers straight.
That’s the idea, and I’ll do a quiz piece for Christmas 😉
The 15 was sold here. This is a link to the 17/15 brochure for the us market: https://www.hemmings.com/blog/2016/07/12/rare-french-thoroughbreds-1975-renault-15tl-and-17tl17-gordini-22-brochure/#&gid=1&pid=14
The Renault 4 isn’t body on frame, not inte usual American way. It’s a box section platform chassis, think about it as front and rear subframes joined together with the floorpan in between. The difference is that the the chassis isn’t rigid enough to be used as a stand alone platform chassis like the VW Beetle chassis, it needs the rigidity of the body on top of it to stay together. But yes, it made it far simpler to adapt for different uses with other bodies on top of it, like the R5 and R6.
Respect
I had a number of Renaults (4, 5, 25) and although I never became a fan, I was always impressed by the ride, handling and comfort. The 25 in particular felt like a smaller car around corners. I did buy it to make money (yes, on a Renault) and as soon as I sorted all the issues it was sold. The thought of parts’ prices and that V6’s complexity was ever present, so it was a sigh of relief when I got handed those £1200 by the buyer. Oh: it had one of those synthesized voice overs (a female in this case) – I nearly got a heart attack when it decided to warn me VERY LOUDLY about low fuel level (although the gauge was showing 1/4 full) on my drive to work. It was early and I was half asleep. It fully woke me up though.
Great article. I owned many of the Renaults that are discussed. 2 Renault 5s (still have the 1983), 2 Alliances, an R-12, a Fuego, an 18i and a Medallion. My favorite was the 18i and my least favorite was the Medallion (always overheated and rattled). All were purchased either new or with low miles. The two I wanted but never found for the right price or condition; were a late model Dauphine (1967) ;with a manual transmission, and an R-10.
The CC effect struck again today. As I was heading back to work from lunch, I saw an early 3 door Renault 11 and a facelifted Renault 21 wagon. This article made me realise how rare these things have become.
I don’t think the (otherwise excellent) article mentions that there were 3-dr 11s – I remember the ‘turbo’ for example
Although Renault had a big presence in Latin America, it only get in the Brazilian market in 1994 with the R19 and R21, and then by Clio, Twingo and Laguna. Except for the 19 and 21, the whole models in this article are just aliens for Brazilians. As I live in a State near to Argentina, I grew seeing something of those Renault in the 80’s to early 90’s, at that time there were some R12, but almost all already in a junk state. Although it has much in common with the Ford Corcel, side by side they are as different as a Beetle and a Mini. Cars with a “truncated trunk” like the R12 and the Peugeot 404 never were seen in Brazil and both took funny expressions from Brazilians.
There were so many R9, but we easily mistook it the Fiat Premio / Duna. Both are almost identical except for a few inches more in the R9. I remember seeing many R18 too, but always in very bad conservation, it seems to have plastics and bumpers very perishable if compared to the excellent state any Peugeot 505 or 205 of any age from there. My favorite of any “strange car” from Renault was the Fuego, as nothing so different were present in the Brazlian market, it was one of the most notable in the streets. I miss those times when there were so much different models from our neighbors, although our local market was very scarce of options, a trip to a beach used to be a fantastic car fair a children.
Great article! I hadn’t realised how much Renault cars were imprinted on my young psyche. My school friend’s dad had a succession of Renault cars including a 12 and a 20. I remember the 12 rusting away slowly on their garage when we were in our early teens and thinking that I’d kind of like to own it. I also remember our next door neighbour having an 18GTL when I was 7 or so and being fascinated by the weird tweed-like seats and shiny dashboard. It was then piqued even more by Roger Moore chopping an 11 in half during The Living Daylights. Since then, myself and Mrs Rattling have hired a first generation Twingo which was cool, except for the fabric sunroof popping open every time we shut the doors! Also, since we got married we’ve also owned 3 Clips and they’ve been – in the main – reliable cars (well except for the wipers failing 3 times on my Clio…).
Excellent article! And much needed.
Now, I must point out what I always point out on CC. There is not, and has never been a single “South American market”. The booted Renault 4 is actually an Uruguayan market car, built and only sold in that little country. If you want to see more pictures of it, I have more here:
http://ripituc.blogspot.cl/2016/10/carspotting-uruguay-renault-4s-mini.html
And by the way, I took the picture included in this Renault Bingo story 🙂 Sadly, I was still in the film camera era, so I tried to save film by not taking a picture of the front.
As a Brazilian commenter said, Argentine Renaults are mostly unknown to them. Same can be said about those made in Uruguay, Colombia and Chile. They were often only for their domestic markets, which were heavily protected by tariffs and restrictions.
Also, it’s Colombia, not Columbia.
I’m glad you enjoyed, and I hope you enjoyed seeing your photo being used, too.
I love it!
Roger, thank you very much for a job well done, a grand review.
Occasionally we are given a car ride that stays with you through a lifetime. In 1973, after a ski week at Tredbo in the Australian Snowy Mountains, a mate with a Renault 16 offered me a lift to Sydney. Wow, the brisk speed and comfort of the 16 over varying road surfaces was amazing with the ride comfort seemingly sublime. This return trip to Sydney remains memorable to this day making me a lifetime Renault believer. Bravo Renault 16.
A real pleasure reading this; thanks very much!
Thank you Roger great article.
It is very rare to see or find an ad for an old Renault these days, in the US. Its like they never existed.
Whew, it’s taken a couple of days, but I’ve just finished reading this Roger, and what a wonderful read it was! Most of the featured cars were available in New Zealand, and I remember seeing several on the road over the years, but some I hadn’t heard of, so it was fascinating reading about them.
My late grandparents had Renaults in the 1960s/early 1970s – two R8s (one might have been an R10) and something else. They then turned to Volvo, and later Ford, for their cars, but returned to the Renault fold in 2000, when they bought a new Scenic, which my Uncle now has. Although spectacularly versatile, it’s not been the most reliable of cars – and isn’t a Renault Bingo car anyway lol!
My personal experience of Renaults is the Scenic, a 1986 Renault 11 I drove once in 1990 (it was awkward to drive – from memory the steering wheel wasn’t centred with the driver’s seat), and a 1987 25 I rode in once in 1992 (I was intrigued at the talking dashboard!). There was also the late-2000s Clio we had in France, but like the Scenic, not a Renault Bingo numbers car.
Anyway, absolutely brilliant article Roger, thank you. 🙂
(PS, not sure the 21 counts as France’s last 7-seater wagon, as our 2006 Peugeot 307 SW station wagon is a 7-seater, albeit nothing like as spacious as the 21!)
What a wonderful journey Roger, thanks for the ride!
So many fondly familiar shapes from the past, and – as you rightly say – some of them still very much features of the roads in France. Whenever I’m there the Vendeean roads still swarm with 4s, 5s and 11s as well as occasional scatterings of rarer numbers.
As a couple of others have mentioned, the eyebrow twitched somewhat at “This was perhaps the last attempt at a distinctive large French car until the Citroen DS5 of 2011.” How is it that the poor old ’02 Renault Vel Satis gets no love there?
Wonderful story Roger! Many many thanks. That’s what makes CC really different from other sources. Looking forward for the next.
Excellent article, thank you! Still miss my Canadian-spec 1984 Fuego, with its smooth and efficient Bosch injected 2.2 litre engine. Comfy seats, fine handling, and a working electric, canvas sunroof! Except for some wonky taillight wiring, totally reliable. They don’t make ’em like than anymore.
Wow ! I had to take a second run at this, just couldn’t do it all in one go. Surely a labour of love ?
I have often found Renaults interesting, having driven many ( 4, 6,14,16, 20, and Megane ) and in younger days even contemplated buying one. Recent Renaults tend to have extremely attractive styling as well. The current Clio Estate is a cracker, but fortunately for me is LHD only. If ever I get too carried away I just remind myself how quickly they rust, and how poor quality are the components that Renault buy in from suppliers.
I’ve currently got two 1983 9s and an ’85 Super CInq – back in the 70’s I owned a 16 which rode as well as any Citroen .
Renault cooling systems require patience when bleeding, it took me two months to get all the air bubbles out of one of the 9’s.
Renaults have been quirky at times, albeit weird. But there was a secret in these select cars that only a Hot Rodder could pry. In some quarter-mile circuits in Canada and the American Southwest, Renaults challenged Oldsmobiles, Toyotas, Mercurys and the occaisional Dodge and AMC. In fact the “Renault versus Pontiac” battles were the centerpiece of many a race day. I’ve several Renaults of this period that I like, the 17 TL, 18i Sportswagon, Alliance GTA convertible, Fuego, even the cute Dauphine and Caravelle sports car. Renault had a special place in not only mine, but my late Uncle’s heart, as he had two Alpines, a ’68 and a ’75. and I’ll be restoring the later car and racing it at Area 27 in British Columbia. I love Renault, and I can’t find ANY car except for Plymouth, Kia, and Land Rover that are real cool! I’m also hoping to get a 5 Turbo, one first generation and second, which are dynamic and I can’t wait to get them.
The 19 had the same torsion bar rear suspension as the 9/11, not a torsion beam axle as stated. The car was just a reskin of the 9/11 with new OHC engines available.. same for the first generation Megane which was just a new external shape for the same 9/11/19 running gear.
Renaults just never seemed to hold up well under American driving conditions. Never owned one myself, but friends who did have some real horror stories. I can hardly even remember the last time I saw a Renault on the road. (Of course they have kind of a back-door presence in the U.S. these days through Nissan.)
That Renault 19 looks almost like a shrunken Saab 9000! I always though the Eagle Premier had a nice clean if very conservative look to it. I doubt it would have succeeded though even had Chrysler not bought out the show. I think the base engine on those was the AMC 2.5 4-cylinder, but most of the few that sold had the troublesome PRV V-6.
As others have noted, the 15 was indeed sold in the US, but it’s tenure was much shorter than the 17, I think on the order of only 2 or 3 years. I recall seeing 1 15 in the metal, a very sad and rusty example in the used lot of a Toyota dealer around 81 or 82.
I drove a US spec 18i when they were new to the market, 81? A very handsome package, I thought, particularly the wagon. Unbelievably comfortable seats, and I was already spoiled by the seats in my R5. The 81i first arrived here with the old pushrod 1.6 and was desperately slow. Why oh why did they not bring it with the OHC 2.0 or the 2.2 they finally offered in the 18i several years later? Those more modern, powerful engines were available in 81. What were they thinking?
By some odd twist, I saw an R20 in the parking lot on campus when I was in grad school in 81. Had to be some grey market import, or a foreign student had brought it in on some sort temporary permit.
Odd that a company as substantial as Renault is forgotten, or unknown, in the US today. Probably few connect Nissan with Renault, although the first gen Nissan Versa hatchbacks had a distinctly Renault look to them.
Found this video a while back, about Renault’s first decade of it’s second century as an auto manufacturer.
iirc, Renault schooled the NHTSA on a couple things in the early 80s. Their first contention was that the rigid crash barriers the NHTSA was using at the time did not provide an accurate simulation of an impact and a deformable barrier would more accurately represent an impact with another vehicle. The second point was that a wider seat belt would injure the wearer less. My 78 Merc Zephyr had narrow belts, on the order of about 2″, while my R5 had noticeably wider belts, on the order of 2 1/4 or more.
The Renault TV advert about safety always cracks me up.
Renault poured millions into updating the AMC facilities in Kenosha. I wonder if Chrysler salvaged all that equipment when the old plant was torn down?
Partial build film for the Alliance convertible.
My younger brother had a Le Car – his had the fabric “pop top” and a manual transmission. We slapped a set if the cheapest “low-profile” (for the time) – I think they were 60s and drove it like a sports car. The rear muffler fell off so the Renault got a length of exhaust tubing – might even have been flex pipe – and a little chrome turn down. Now it SOUNDED like a sports car and even had a little burbley back fire when you down shifted. Fun to toss around actually, especially with the top rolled back. Unfortunately it died when a radiator hose blew and the engine seized. If I remember correctly he sold to a Renault guy from the Youngstown Ohio area as a parts car. Ih, we added vinyl racing stripes to the hood too!
My younger brother had a Le Car – his had the fabric “pop top” and a manual transmission.
Mine also had the fabric sun roof, essential as it added close to an inch of headroom. I also added a 13″ BWA aftermarket steering wheel so I had enough leg room and my knuckle would not hit the windshield wiper lever when I turned.
Loved the sunroof, used the daylights out of it. Remembering how nice the Renault’s sunroof was is the only, repeat, only reason I keep considering a Fiat 500 Cabrio.
Unfortunately it died when a radiator hose blew and the engine seized.
Sort of depends on where the engine was seized. The R5 engine, in spite of it’s iron block, had replaceable cylinder sleeves, so new sleeves and pistons may have been all that was required, tho I would not be surprised if the aluminum head was warped. Another person had her R5 into the shop I took mine to after grossly overheating it. iirc the bill was about $1,500 (on a car that cost about $5000 new).
Bleeding the air out of an R5 cooling system was a bit of a trick as the top of the radiator was not the highest point in the system. There were a couple T fittings with bleeder screws in them at the high points. The overflow tank was held in place by a bungee cord. The drill was to unclip the bungee cord and elevate the tank like an IV bottle, then loosen the bleeder screws to let the air out.
R4, R5 and R 16 were game changers for the whole car industry, Citroën may have the image for being avantgarde, but Renault did it.
I love my wife’s Twingo 1, it is roomy comfortable and a great cat for in and around the city. The idea of the Twingo has been copied.
By everyone.
And do not be surprised if 5 years from now others will re-invent the Avantime concept.
By Renault !
Oddly enough prices for Avantimes are seriously on the rise, well the concept was unique and ahead of its time.
Thank you for the post and for re-posting it.
My family has an ambivalent relationship with Renaults, Grandad liked their R4 so much he bought a R6 1100 to replace his Porsche 356 when he retired. But he hated the R6, because of the way it rusted and fell to pieces.
Later Dad had a 14 as his firms car. He was supposed to have a Ford Cortina 1.6 but they must have been strike. The Renaults only redeeming feature were it’s seats. Paintwork and rust were soon issues and it was very reluctant to start. Trying to access the engine which was on its side under the spare wheel was a challenge which made a Mini seem easy to work on.
Dad told my brother and me not to buy a Clio, Scenic or Espace later. “Renault have changed” we said, “They wouldn’t be in business after 100 years if they were that bad” we said. At least the Espace couldn’t rust, but the bodywork, trim and electrics still self detructed.
Now I’ve bought a Dacia, telling myself that it’s one of the best selling cars in Europe and they must have changed. They haven’t changed enough, the starter failed after only 31000 miles.
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
“Now I’ve bought a Dacia, telling myself that it’s one of the best selling cars in Europe…”
For those who want to know some more about the amazing raise of Dacia and the part that played Renault:
Very nice article!
Interestingly, the R17 was known in Italy as the R177 because 17 is/was seen as a very unlucky number here.
Seeing this post again put a smile on my face. Renaults haven’t been common cars here since the seventies, although there is a Megane convertible in my town. I wouldn’t have known what it was if I hadn’t read the badge. While I remember reading about the 9,11, and 14, I don’t think they ever came to Australia. Renault seemed to give up after the 18 flopped (it was ridiculously overpriced).
Here’s a numbered Renault from me, a rally version of the 5 Turbo.
I do like that this article, a fine post by the way, did not include multiple pages to click through, rather it read as one long article, allowing ease of scrolling back and forth to view it all. Nicely done.
” The engine dated back to a joint venture agreement between Peugeot and Renault established in the mid 1960s, and with the larger Douvrin 2.7 litre V6 used on the Renault 30, Peugeot 604 and Volvo 264, the only results of that relationship.”
Don’t forget the 2.0-2.2 inline 4 !
My first car was a 1974 Renault 17 Gordini 4-speed when I was age 18 in 1982 in Vancouver, Canada. First date with my now wife was in this car. It had the biggest retractable sunroof of any car and nice styling throughout. Good memories.
As Skyliner said above most of Renaults offerings were available in NZ my BIL even worked in Renault spares for a while actually he has worked for almost every brand of car we can get, I briefly considered a Megane diesel until he told me what the spares cost and how often I’d need some, Never common even for French cars which though gaining popularity as being more advance than the Japanese competition are still not common, I’d had my new C5 for a month before I saw another, Peugeots are more common in traffic but are outnumbered by the most obscure JDM cars youve never seen or Tatra has found on his wanderings,
Excellent review of the era. Although I have owned a 2CV for over 30 years I also enjoy other French brands, including Renault. I am from Toronto but worked in Montreal for a number of years in the 70s and 80s. Renaults were remarkably popular there, especially the R5. I am a runner and I often used to go for an evening run through the University of Montreal, which is the largest French University in Montreal. I used to play a game with myself where I would count the R5s parked along the curb. The ratio was around 50% of the cars and often higher. For those who know Montreal this would be along Edouard Montpetit Blvd. The R5 was very popular among francophone (French speaking) students. I rented one for a weekend and really enjoyed it. An excellent small hatchback.
About the “umbrella” gearchange. If you think about it why would you choose to put the gearshift by the steering column, other than grouping the controls. I got my licence in 1966 and did not own an automatic until 2012, but I have never driven a car with manual shift by the steering column. I have almost never seen one. The parents of a high school friend had a 61 Biscayne with a 3 speed column shift, but that is the only one I remember. Everyone in my family bought automatics if they bought an American car. The only other column shift I remember was all the Hindustan Ambassadors from my visits to India.
The dash mounted shifter in the 2CV was from the Citroen tradition, not for any engineering reason, because its transmission is behind the engine, so the linkage does not go over the engine, but it still works well.
Wow, actually a plan in naming models…imagine that.
My Dad bought a new ’68 R10 after his ’59 Beetle was totalled parked in front of our house in Burlington. He’d been making trips to Corbeil-Essonnes since the mid 60’s and kind of became a francophile, even though this was his 2nd car and we almost never took family trip in it, it certainly was more family friendly than his Beetle with 4 doors, and a bit larger trunk (also in the front). He had it through ’74, after the 1st gas crisis started, ironically he sold it so he’d have 2 cars with automatic transmission so my Mother could take the smaller car on errands (not sure how often that happened; I remember 1 trip I took with her in the small automatic so must not have been much; she was never comfortable with a manual transmission). I think the R10 had maybe 22k miles on it when he sold it, since it was almost never used on trips, only for commuting and weekend errands.
I started driving 49 years ago, right after he sold the Renault such that I never drove it, but you sat high up and it had very good visibility. Also probably the most comfortable seats in any car he owned (they were vinyl, but very nice). It had all sorts of odd exterior lighting which was probably from home market, I never did figure out what all the odd (especially side-mounted) lights were for…of course being a ’68 it was 1st year for side reflectors, but this car had all sorts of lights such as on the fender near the front door that weren’t US market requirements. He used to keep a 6v/12v battery charger in the front trunk, probably because he put so few miles on it, maybe had flat battery (don’t remember if it was 6 or 12v). It also went through a clutch in the few miles he owned it, remember it giving out on the way home from a Washington Senators game ( we’d moved to Virginia a couple years after he bought it…also my Dad wasn’t a baseball fan at all, not sure why we went, but it probably was one of those Father/Son outings and happened during baseball rather than football season the latter of which he immensely preferred).
He never got around to owning another Renault. He had a few more foreign cars but after 1980 never owned another one; kind of the opposite of most people who might have only owned domestic cars early on. He’d been in the Army in Germany in the early 50’s and was assigned Beetles (or REO Truck) while over there, so he’d gotten exposed to foreign cars pretty early on in his 20’s).