I had been storing some cars at my house for my friend for several years, most notably his Ford pickup under our trees. One day he shows up in a gray 1985 Ford LTD Crown Victoria and informs me that he wants to give it to me. “Why?” I ask, “do you really just want me to store it for you?” “No”; he said it was for all the times I had helped him out. Ok, I thought, but I really had no use for such a machine. But I didn’t want to refuse his “generosity” so I took the car. Along with it he also gave me a cheap and gaudy ring that he bought from a street vendor in Southern California.
I soon learned that the title to the car was with the ex-wife of his former boss in a small town just a ways out. Hmm. I thought, I wonder how he came to “own” this car.
According to him I merely need go and ask for the title from her. So I drove out and found with some difficulty the mobile home she was living in. Upon introducing myself and explaining what my friend had said she simply said; “Well damn him; he still owes me fifteen dollars, but if you get me a box of cigarettes I will give you the title”. So after a trip to the store and one box of cigarettes later the title was in my hands.
Now of course that title was open and signed off on by some person that was not any of the four of us involved in its future so far. But luckily (or not) everything panned out at the Department of Motor Vehicles.
( Matlock-mobile )
The car itself was gray with some peeling clear coat. It had the ubiquitous 302 V8 and AOD transmission, and the tires were bad, but it was actually fairly straight otherwise, and the interior was pretty nice. However, Panthers are not really my thing. Neither are any large American cars from the seventies through now really (I must admit that there are a few exceptions, most notably Mercury Marauder, late Caprices, and Cadillac Fleetwoods).
Now, going from VW Rabbits and gnarly trucks to a big American sedan is a bit of a change. What the %^&$ is this, fake wood? The seats felt like Lazy Boy recliners, the handling was non-existent; it wallowed around bends, ducking and bobbing at every corner. And at highway speeds it floated like kids playing on a water bed. Oh, and of course there was the power steering that was so overpowered and vague that one really aimed with it more than steered.
I drove the car around a little bit until the tags expired and then parked it. I was used to cars that were peppy and/or efficient. This was a whole different kind of beast, something Ben Matlock or Barnaby Jones might drive, not me. But my friend David and his wife who were in college and had two children had just had their VW bus breakdown on them. So I told them they could use the LTD as long as they needed but that it would need tires and tags.
David drove it around on the bad tires for quite awhile until they blew up. So he was forced to buy tires for it. Personally I didn’t care if I ever saw the car again, but one day I was car-less for some reason so I asked if I could borrow it back for a few days.
When I returned it to them, David asked me if I had smoked in it. I told him that I had not, but that if I had wanted to I would have, since it was my car. He became quite irritated and started babbling about landlords and bosses and hypocrites. Suddenly I was the petty-bourgeois and he was the oppressed proletariat. I said, look why don’t you just buy the car, I’ll sell it to you cheap. No, he didn’t want to own such a beast; can’t say I blame him. So we parted ways, the car still in his possession.
Ater about six months the LTD quit running on them. So I went and tried to fix it, but by the time I got to it, it was running all on it’s own accord. They got another car and I got the LTD back. However David never let me forget that he put new tires on it.
I drove it around a little, but then it shut down on me one cold night and I quite driving it. I did trace the problem down to the ignition module. Those years of Ford used the TFI (Thick Film Integrated) system which is notoriously fragile. But I never did fix it, and I really didn’t care. So it sat on the farm for several years until I got tired of it and sold it to a scrapper for next to nothing. It never was really my type of car.
I once asked my friend Bill why I liked small cars so much. He said it was because I valued efficiency. And he was right. The new world ideal ushered in by the vast expanses of open land and endless resources of the Americas changed our definition of well-off. At least in the USA it’s all about conspicuous consumption. The biggest, most un-used lawn, the fountain that pours forth untouched water all day, the vast living room with but a few pieces of furniture. And the cars, oh yes, the cars. Bigger, more comfortable, more powerful. You can’t even buy a small truck now. What is called compact now is what was called mid-sized a few years ago. So yes, I value efficiency, at least in a car.
Don’t get me wrong, there is a certain appeal in a piece of big American iron with a big engine that does big stuff. After all, one of my current cars is a one-ton, four-wheel-drive van with a 350 crate motor and a four barrel carburetor in it. But it can haul twelve people, pull a trailer, carry a couple of canoes on the roof rack, and do it all off-road. A car on the other hand, is a simple device meant to carry 2-5 people in comfort from one point to another. With such simple requirements it seems efficiency would be at the top of the list when shopping for one.
But to each his own, and my own is not really in the Panther or B body realm. Since my brief fling with the LTD ended, I have not owned another large American car. Instead I got a more efficient, more classic American car, that made me appreciate the true je ne sais quoi of American iron. But that’s for next time.
I was afraid you’d really lay into my beloved Panther, but you didn’t. Thank goodness!
Perhaps you would have appreciated the station wagon version more, due to increased utility?
As for the terrible handling, all this generation of Panthers needs is a tight front end, decent shocks, and a rear sway bar and they become quite competent. The $8 rear sway bar I pulled of a ’87 Grand Marquis and installed on my Town Car made an entire untiverse of difference, and they say the cop car bars are even better, but those are harder to find and pricier…
I almost bought one of the wagons. A high mileage but well cared-for 87 or 88 Colony Park. I was horrified at the lack of rigidity in the structure. My sedan had not been too bad, but that wagon – awful. That thing flexed and squeaked and rattled. I went back to the owner and had the max amount I was prepared to offer in cash. He was a salesman and thought he could work me for a bit more. I left. Later that evening I bought an 85 LeSabre coupe from a colleague. Mr. Colony Park called me as I was driving the Buick home, and told me that he now saw things my way. You could hear his face fall over the phone when I told him it was too late.
I have actually considered owning one and if they made a late Crown Vic wagon, I would certainly buy one!
I’ve been in many Box (1st gen) Panthers, and the ride has varied from what Michal described (aim, not steer) to, well, steer. Mr. Tactful is on the money with the tight front end suggestion. The control arm bushings are rubber and they’re gonna wear out in time, add to that derelict ball joints and that ride gets positively scary.
The steering is recirculating ball, so it has to at least be new. Even then it won’t approach the rack-and-pinion levels, but it will come close with the aforementioned tight front end.
I can only tell you guys about some of the nice Panthers that I’ve been in. Tight front ends, new quality suspension components, restored steering, and then most of these guys have put in HO motors… the lopo just wasn’t a good match for these land yachts. That’s where the cops of course had the HO’s, and it’s a different car, the HO/AOD combo is an entirely different beast from the lopo/AOD variant. I could keep listing the mods that I’ve seen – big front brakes and MAF conversions definitely come to mind, as well as GT-40 or even P-heads. Fantastic cars.
A stock Panther is basically a clean canvas on which one can draw something really exciting, as I see it. But, if one doesn’t like big cars, then it’s moot. If one likes big cars but doesn’t enjoy the stock deficiencies of the box Panthers, however, there’s plenty that can be done!
@phoenix +1 and BTW trying to say that on TTAC will usually get you crucified by the B&B.
Right on man.
I guess that makes sense – the TTAC community in general is more oriented toward new cars, and as a result toward cars as a complete, “as is” product. Nothing wrong with that, they’re the best place to read about modern cars, but my wallet and those of most of my friends rules out that particular approach. Would I like to have to decide between Audis, Mercs, and Bimmers, which would be my next purchase? I guess, lol, not many people honestly wouldn’t. But the salary suggests more along the lines of a new entry level vehicle, and I just happen to not be down with that.
At the same time, to not acknowledge the deficiencies of 80s designs and (especially) cost-cutting on (in my case) Ford’s part, like putting a lopo into almost everything V8, skipping on decent sway bars, and not having the decency to equip even the HO V8 cars with an oil pressure gauge, to name only a few, is just… nostalgic. I’m not into nostalgia, I’m into awesome daily drivers that I can afford!
I would still be game for a police version, but a little later for the styling. I once drove a police LTD II, it was actually pretty snappy!
I agree with you, i had a 92′ Mercury Grand Marquis with the dual exhaust option and the AOD tranny. I learned to drive in this car, my friends could not believe my driving considering the size and the suspension of the thing.
Although i really tried having the car in a good condition you cannot play with a live axle ( stupidly soft sprung) and such a vague steering, it was good on heavy traffic but really could go weary on bad roads ( those are abundant in México), so , i got tired of people pointing at my GrandMa’ boat as a non matching car to a teenager and also those red velour interiors. Otherwise i still miss the feeling of the thing when you drive along in a relaxed highway, i like big cars, but then Renault came back to México with the Renault Sport division and when they offered me a test drive in a Clio RS 172 i fell in love with it inmediately. Sold the GrandMa’ and drove a car that not only had a cool factor, it also showed me something a Panther could not ever provide, fun factor, handling, a not exploding tranny, lack of miles of chrome, a tachometer. I will always remember Panther cars with love, but im also glad they don’t exist anymore.
Just bought an 85 vic…..92000 on body…..27000 on engine….body could be better put brakes bearings and rotors on front plus tires……white and beige roof…….800.00 for car plus tires and brake work…..1.000 total…..best ride i’ve had in years…..the english guy is a fucktard!…..needs to stick to English shit!
I used to have a 1985 Dk Blue. Crown Vic. I loved the efficiency of the 302 and consequently own 2 Crown Vicks and 4 Grand Marquis. May search for another if there is one close to Mpls.. Thanks.
I used one of these in ’86 to round up cattle on a West Texas ranch. Drove through dry stock tanks (pools & ponds, to the easterners), dodged mesquite and prickly pair, and chased stray cattle like I was Roscoe P. Coltrain on the General Lee. That the car actually excelled in such a roll gave me a deep, if unusual, respect for these cars. That, and that my grandmother drove it like it stolen here and there as well. She was no blue-hair in a Buick Century at all.
They are tough, that’s for certain.
Hank, would you believe I have a 1985 Crown Vic–blue black, a police car but for the blue landau roof–impeccable, garage kept? I bought it this Spring from an estate sale with 22,000 original miles, authenticated by the original mechanic. Truly.
This Crown Victoria drives like a limousine (and I have driven limousines when I used to photograph covers for Limo and Chauffer Magazine.) Personally I like aiming it and feeling like I am in a yacht. I will say three windows are stuck shut and I have to get that fixed for 100 bucks each, but the A/C rocks. Plus those little turn in front windows? And all that gleaming chrome?
I have only given it a tune-up, spark plugs, worked on the tires from the inside out, and put in a new muffler. The paint is almost flawless. So is the chrome.
My fourteen-year-old daughter loves it, it is so comfy.
However I am thinking of selling it before winter and sharing my boyfriend’s because–well, I hate to winter it outside for the first time in its life in a Maryland winter.
Plus I walk almost everywhere and am cashing out about everything I have of value–artwork, Iozake chairs, etc, for a new small biz enterprise in silver which will represent the most profitable 5% of a former import business, where the other 95% was much harder and less profitable.
Want it? Funny, I can’t even get any comps–ridiculous mileage (now about 23,000). The only thing I will say is it was garage kept without a fan–so some parts verge on brittle, but hey, she is one reliable land yacht. I say she has 100,000 miles left on her with good care and feeding. Her name is, well, Victoria!
Instead I got a more efficient, more classic American car, that made me appreciate the true je ne sais quoi of American iron. But that’s for next time.
Ummmmmmmmmmm let me guess… Vega? Pinto? Pacer? Gremlin?
As I stated in a reply to Pauls post that was one of the first here on CC (his appology for maligning the Fifth Ave) I told him that I am facinated by these cars for several reasons one being that I love to see how the Big 3 reacted when their traditional “BIG CAR” world was turned upsidedown by the gas crisises and emissions standards of the 1970s. The Panther and the B-body are actually very solid efforts on their parts.
I guess I’m a guy who believes in the right car for the right purpose. If I want to haul the family around, give me BIG. If I want to have fun give me a sports or a muscle car. If I need to haul, give me a truck. If I’m headed off road, give me a 4×4.
My mother bought a new 85, navy blue inside and out. It was a very good car for her, and, after about 59K miles, she replaced it with a 93 Vic.
I bought the 85 Vic from her, and always had mixed feelings about the car. When I bought it, I had been driving an 86 Fox body Marquis wagon with the 3.8 and a 3 spd C5 auto. The wagon was a year newer, but had almost double the miles. However, I always preferred the way the Fox car drove.
The Vic was softer, smoother and quieter, but the combo of the weak 302 and the AOD is something that I have ranted about here before. I said at the time that there was nothing really wrong with the car that either a 390 or a C6 auto would not cure.
These never felt as solid as the GM B bodies, and were a bit smaller. However, they were quieter and felt lighter on their feet. Actually, when my Mom bought it, I was driving a 77 New Yorker. The first time I drove the Vic, I thought “what a cute little big car,” and was happy to get back into my Chrysler.
I drove it for not quite 2 years. A trip from Indiana to Texas with 2 kids in car seats convinced me that other arrangements were in order. That, along with the fact that some anti freeze seemed to be seeping into the oil. I traded the Vic on a 1 year old 94 Club Wagon.
I have mixed feelings about that 84. I wanted to like it. I really did. It was good looking, although I liked the detective version (no vinyl top and dog dish caps) better. But I didn’t like the car that much, really. No good for city – the 302/AOD made the 25-40 mph range excruciating. Also, the car was geared so tall that it would not stay in OD to climb a moderate hill on the interstate at 70 mph. I hated the strange tilt wheel mechanism that was common to Fords of that era. I hated the velour seats that would grab you halfway in or out of the car and not let go until you fought yourself the rest of the way in or out.
I still love driving Mom’s 93. I don’t miss the 85.
“The Vic was softer, smoother and quieter, but the combo of the weak 302 and the AOD is something that I have ranted about here before. I said at the time that there was nothing really wrong with the car that either a 390 or a C6 auto would not cure.”
Or the H.O. 5.0 with BIG heads. Nothing wrong with the 302 engine per se, the lopo intakes, heads, headers etc. just suck. It was choked for the masses in the name of Efficiency, all that other stuff that would wake it up was available, only on very few models (again, in the name of the overal FoMoCo efficiency rating). In other words, the 302 really was a modular engine when you think of how many options they had for it. Throw an Explorer (GT-40) engine in one of these wholesale and you got yourself an insane sleeper. 😉 Or a MAF conversion and then P-heads. I’ve been in both, neither lacked for speed substantially beyond any reasonable real world limit.
Let me guess, either one of the US subcompacts or compacts such as a ’70’s era Nova in size will be the subject of your next post.
Having spent many a time in Mom’s ’76 Vega Kamback wagon that she bought 2nd hand in 1978 or ‘9 and kept until the early 80’s. I barely got to drive it while learning to drive. I believe it had no power steering, but had power front disc brakes. It even had the rare I think combo of AC and automatic. it turned out to be a decent car and very practical too, just not fast at all and the mileage could’ve been MUCH better than it was.
The only issue was the carburetor went bad and that affected the performance, what it had anyway and the mileage. Got that fixed and it ran fine after that.
But as for big, softly sprung cars like this Crown Vic, I agree, I’m more of a small car kind of guy myself.
@JPC.. Good call on that Tilt.
The Ford 80s tilt wheel had to have been designed and approved by people that thought they were getting the axe. The only function it served was to move the wheel from an uncomfortable angle to another uncomfortable, and now irritating angle.
Panthers aren’t really my cup of meat but I do have respect. Around 1991 my buddy had picked up an 83 Marq 2 door that was used regularly as shuttle service on our 4 hour drive to Mauston Wi. That car and it’s deep freezer like A/C made it an easy drive straight through.
Sacrilegious drivel! All that is Panther is good! But I never really understood that. Having owned and driven every American sled built since 1977, I never liked the Panther for all the same reasons Micheal states here. Bad handling, underpowered, finicky, poor handling and interiors that crap out fast. The only really tolerable ones were the Canadian-spec 351W Police Interceptors, which were still not nearly as good as the Chevrolet 9C1.
But to each his own I suppose.
The US police had the option of the HO 5.8 too and for a few years you could get it in the civi wagon with the tow package too.
The Canadian one had an emissions exemption and therefore no catcon or egr, supposedly due to the lack of service facilities (and for a long time) unleaded fuel in the far north. Having driven both models, the Canadian car made waaaaaaaaaay more power.
That just explained one of the Mystery Vehicles from my past. My ex-father in law had a 1981 F250 with a 351 Modified and no converter or a.i.r. system on his farm. The tag under the hood said 351/400m emissions exempt. At first I thought it was intended as an AG only type of rig but no Ford dealer could give me any info. Most said it never existed. Must have been a grey market truck from our Great White north.
The American one skated through in its final years on an emissions exemption too. Even with the emissions stuff it had it didn’t quite make 49 state passenger car standards.
There were multiple emissions classes in the early years. In 75 when most cars required cats trucks and MPVs with a GVW of over 6000lbs were exempt. That is why IH re-sprung all Scouts in 75 to have a 6200lb GVW. That min GVW to avoid the dreaded cat did drift up as years went on but into the mid 80’s you could still get a 49 state E/F250 or 350 w/o cats. In the early 80’s Ford offered a “under 8500GVW” F250 that had a semifloat 8 lug rear and cats, and a “over 8600 GVW” F250 with the full floater and no cats.
Good point. That truck did have the D60 floater at the rear. She sat high enough for me to crawl under with no jacks too.It could have been a GVW thing.
It still floored me to see a Modified and no cat in an 80s chassis.
The town I grew up in had the 351w cars as squads in the early 80s. The first thing the village
idiotmechanic did to them was remove the variable Venturi carbs and swap on the MC 2150 2bbl so they’d run reliably..
Oh gads – now you’ve done it! I had successfully wiped the memory of Ford’s Variable Venturi carbs completely out of my memory banks.
There were so many ideas from that era that just weren’t quite ready for prime time (Mopar putting engine ECM on air filter housing, Cadillac’s V8-6-4, Buick’s airbags, antilock brakes, etc) and that had to be one of them.
What a horrible, horrible car — the early Panthers were just utter crap. I’m still trying to recover from the trauma of the ’79 Country Squire I owned years back.
The later ones are infinitely more appealing, but I’m afraid the ’79 just ruined me for gambling on Panthers. Maybe I just got a bad one, but my superstitious reflexes cry “NO!” at the very thought of giving up anything to get a Panther.
I heard a story about GM cars of the same era from the local dealer guys. He told me they actually had a transmission fall off of the car on it’s way out of the dealership one. That was not covered in the warranty and the new owner had to pay to have it fixed.
“A car on the other hand, is a simple device meant to carry 2-5 people in comfort from one point to another. With such simple requirements it seems efficiency would be at the top of the list when shopping for one.”
As a yacht cap’n, you might expect me to object to this, but no. I agree. The dinosaurs went away for a reason. What’s weird is that people in 2011 are still buying massive tanks that, yes, offer 4×4 utility but are basically used as glorified Country Squires, barely getting better mileage than a carbureted Panther.
mmmmmm, we never got the Crown Vic or any other Panther cars out here, (but we did get Matlock) so without the benefit of first-hand experience I’ve always loved Crown Vics from afar – especially that delicious chocolate-coloured one at the top of the page. And those turbine-look wheels, they are divine! One day I’ll have a Panther all of my own 🙂
Some made it here theres one in Napier blinged to death but definitely a Panther Ford. Saw a car today Id buy if I had thecash an ex Florida Police spec Plymouth Fury 1985 for sale at the Meanee garage Cop tyres Cop suspension 318 motor but he has a 440 next to it on thebench.
talk to me, see Hank’s comment from me.
I have a navy black 1985 Crown Vic, garage kept for all these years, one clean machine, 22,000 original miles,and I’ve put on a thousand. Where else can you find this One Sweet Victoria?
It is strange to think that in 1986 this car would be sharing a showroom with the Taurus – would there be any difference in interior room?
I wonder if the same couldn’t be said for the Aussie Falcon, or the lwb Fairlane which is a closer match in length & wheelbase.
Would someone who travel by private jets be willing to even be seen in a Ford LTD? Except perhaps when they’re being picked up by some government agency, these seem to be the default government cars back then, at least according to Hollywood.
Once upon a time while I was in the air conditioning business and had more money than smarts, I had two virtually identical Lincoln town cars. An 85 and an 86. The difference was big. The 85 had throttle body and was a dog. The 86 had the new fuel injection with the sweepover intake. It was a hot rod and I always got 22-24 on the road and acceptable mileage in town. That leads me to believe that 86 was a big year for Ford. They started calling the 302 a 5.0 and things were better and, in my experience, a lot more reliable.
I think that just like everything else it depends on your expectations. With a trailer hitch the 86 would still do everything I do today (with a truck also) but I do not wish I still had it. Too many memories of exwife who traded it off with 280k on the clock. She let the car lot think it was 180k. It may still be running today. She traded me off the same year and I still am.
I was a little sad the author obviously didn’t have better experience with, and more affection for, his car, but what can one expect? When these cars were new I considered them the epitome of old-fashioned chintziness and American wastefulness, or at least would have if there were many to be seen around the Silicon Valley area at the time (the area had already gone mad for, if not imports or minivans, then the horrible SUV scourge). I was driving my 57-horse Jetta diesel and waiting for the rest of the world to come to its senses.
I had also always considered the Crown Victoria wagon body style to be rather strange, what with the way it widens toward the rear to provide a particularly wide butt and oversize taillights. (Though no, I don’t think it possibly could have deserved Wagon Queen Family Trucksterization — it sure is strange to think that Ford kept making the same basic design for more than five years after Family Vacation came out, and people apparently kept buying it. Though in the Bay Area, not many.)
So I’m not sure what possessed me to adopt the Whale, my 1989 Crown Vic wagon, last year when I saw it up for sale. I guess it was partially the 75,000 miles on the clock racked up by one obviously careful lady owner, partly the fact that I’ve always been a contrarian, partly that I have fond memories of being chauffeured around during the 60s in a succession of wagons by my best friend’s mom (usually a prelude to toy store visits, fun meals out, etc.).
Who can say?
The other thing I don’t understand, though, is the comments above (at least prior to those by wstarvingteacher) criticizing the car’s performance. OK, maybe I’m not the best judge, since I find my other car (currently a 1.9, 96 hp turbodiesel VW) to be more than able to keep up with (nay, outpace) traffic, and don’t understand everyone’s incessant Jeremy Clarksonian demands for POWER! — but the Whale certainly is capable of burning rubber from a standing start, kicking its rear wheels out in an unladylike fashion if too much power is accidentally applied, and generally acting like the most powerful thing on the road if I let it.
Which, given that I only get 15-17 mpg even if I accelerate such as to remind me of the old Jetta, isn’t often. It hasn’t been tuned since I bought it, only treated to new shocks and brakes, so I’m hoping a few more mpgs can be found someday …
In front of a hotel, imitating old Ford advertising that might have been …
You ought to be getting better than 17. I get 22-23 highway with Claudine. Order a bunch of closeout tuneup parts from RockAuto for pennies and get that sucker runnin’ right!
Also, visit grandmarq.net if you haven’t already.
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That pic really makes me want one. But it is good advice from Mr.Tactful, Rockauto rocks. I think wstarvingteacher was right, 86′ was a big year for Ford, it seems they were then finally beginning to emerge from the dark ages of the 70’s.
As far as Clarksonian power hunger, I agree. But it’s a measure of power per mpg. With the poor mpgs of a big American car one should expect a nice trade off in lots of power. But when one does not get it, one is rather disappointed. Personally, I don’t care about power at all, just mgps in relative comfort.
Love your wagon. In truth, I always wanted one of the later 90-91 models with the restyled dash and the higher output engine, which I recall as being about 25-30 horses stronger than my 85. The Country Sedan without the wood was my favorite of these later ones. I recall cruising Ebay looking for one of these at one time but bought something else (I forget what). So, enjoy your wagon, you will not see another like it any time soon.
Thanks to all for the replies and advice!
I didn’t know about the restyled dash but looked it up … it resembles the revision that lived on nearly to this day, doesn’t it?
Meanwhile I want to share the spectacular gallery that I found a couple of months ago — a glorious Mexican version that was a Ford/Mercury mashup with a super-plush interior (mine on the other hand is stark vinyl; another story entirely!)
I had a Panther, finished learning how to drive in it, with that wobbly suspension and ultra-vague steering keeping that car on track on a bumpy surface ( abundant in México)is really a oversteer for dummies class for beginners. It was a 92 Merc’ Grand Ma loaded with dual exhaust, air rear suspension and the JBL stereo, digital dash and a horrible red velour interior.
It was really confortable, had a reasonable gas consumption, really tough chassis after i did a little of unintended offroading, after a blown AOD tranny, the love started to wear, and my desire to get a car more according to my teenager years got me thinking. I got a test drive of a Renault Clio Sport when Renault came back to México and i fell in love with it, loads of fun to drive, i wish i kept the GrandMa’ sometimes, until i drive another Panther and i remember why i sold it. I always wonder how the Marauder drives, it might regain my desire to get another Panther.
They say that baby boomers lust for the cars they had or wanted when they were young; I think the same could be said for my generation. I grew up in the `80s, and for me, these cars are the epitome of cool. That’s why I own a Caprice wagon.
I have strongly considered a late Caprice wagon
Nah, I didn’t have or want a wagon when I was young …. the 1967 Buick GS400 was more to my liking … and my Ford gets no interest or comprehension from fellow boomers in their Prius smugmobiles .. I do think it’s those who grew up in the 80s or 90s who have more appreciation, such as it is …
I enjoyed my `71 Cutlass, but my wagon is just plain cool. I am thinking about getting some vintage election stickers for the rear bumper.
Is that your actual car in the avatar? What a wonder!
I appreciate the pre-1991 Caprices but the last rounded design doesn’t do it for me (though I wouldn’t kick a Roadmaster out of bed!). I guess what I love about my ’89 Ford is that the thing is such a rolling dinosaur .. basically the same car that was introduced in ’79, and really not that different in appearance from much older Ford wagons.
I have some vintage motel stickers on a side window, and one advertising Pan Am’s daily non-stops to New York on the back …
Oh, and I have the optional vent windows (good thing, since the A/C doesn’t work!)
Yes, that’s mine in my avatar! I feel the same way you do about the `91-`96 wagons. Sure they have more power, but I like mine square! Mine is an `88 so it does has the composite headlamps (glass!) but the interior is virtually the same as the older models. No vent windows here, but luckily my A/C does work!
Before I forget, you have an awesome wagon!
While stationed in Germany, we owned a 1976 Mercury Montego (blue, with blue vinyl interior). Several years into living in Mannheim, a CSM moved into our stairwell and he owned a new two-door Crown Vic LTD. I thought that man was a god…he used to take me and his son to Frankfurt pretty regularly to sit and watch the airplanes land and I would sit back in those Laz-y-boy seats thinking I was being chauffeured around in a limo (okay…so a two door limo makes no sense…I get that…). It was brown metallic with the partial landau roof and those alloy rims. For years after I was old enough to drive I had a hankering for one…