I keep hearing about readers having issues with comments. It seems to be one of two main issues: 1.) they get a notice that says “You’re commenting too quickly” (or something like that) and their comment disappears. or 2.), it just disappears.
I just did a test, and I am now quite certain these issues only arise if you’re not logged in. And of course you have to be registered at CC before you can log in.
I just copied and pasted some absurdly long comments with lots of links from our Trashed/Spam comments file, and I could leave them as comments repeatedly, without any hesitation or issue. I was logged, as I always am, and undoubtedly, the Akismet Spam Filter thinks I must be ok as long as I’m registered and signed in.
Then I logged out and tried the same thing again, leaving several of these comments from the Trash and Spam files, and it was impossible. I got the “You’re commenting too quickly” message once, and the the other two times it just went blank.
So instead of writing me emails or leaving comments about the commenting problems, please make sure you’re registered and logged in. And if you’re registering for the first time ans having a problem with your initial Log In, here’s the remedy:
Trouble getting an initial Log In after registering for the first time at CC? Unfortunately, it’s a common problem, and here’s the fix; Try to Log In, but pretend you forgot your password, and ask for a new password to be sent to you via email. Use that to Log In, and if that works fine (it always does) you can always change your password to your preferred one.
In other words, pretend you forgot your password.
Please not that we get bordered by hundreds of spam comments every day. These are left by bots, and their purpose is to improve their own site’s Google Search Rankings by having a link at our site, since we have a relatively high Google Search Ranking. Or for other reasons. But these bots don’t register, and therefore their comments are subject to the very stringent filters of the Akismet software. But if you’re registered and signed in, your can leave crazy comments like some of the ones like these below, just so you have a taste of what we’re bombarded with.
From Akismet’s website:
Akismet is the most powerful anti-spam service for the web. Akismet works by checking all your comments against our constantly-growing global spam database to remove irrelevant, malicious content before it gets published and damages your site’s credibility.
Akismet gets increasingly effective over time: the more it learns, the more it protects. Its algorithms are continuously learning from content marked as spam across websites, so it more accurately detects and removes spam from sites in the future.
When Akismet is enabled on your site, only the personal data needed to carry out Akismet’s core function of protecting your site against comment spam is collected from commenters on your site. We do not sell the data you send to the Akismet service, and we do not keep it for long. We have short retention periods of between two weeks and ninety days for the vast majority of our spam-related data, at which point it is automatically deleted from our databases. Anyone can opt-out of all long-term tracking for the very small subset of data we do keep longer by using our contact form. For more information, please visit our Privacy Notice.
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What’s the problem? Looks like fascinating reading. Pins broke, you say? European Streets and dried fruits you say? Not to mention the patient’s incision. This story had everything.
Sometimes (ok, rarely) the spam is hilarious, the way it peppers links throughout unrelated text. Here are some of my favourites:
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That is hilarious. I can’t stop laughing. My cats think I’ve finally lost it completely.
The first example sounds like a mild form of Tourette Syndrome.
That would be a great ‘starter’ for an exercise for my writing group. It’d be interesting to see where certain people went with it!
Perhaps it should just be “required” that everyone registers and logs in before leaving any comment? Most other sites do that and it’s not an issue, it also might reduce the number of “hit-and-runners” that leave an offensive/annoying/obnoxious comment that ends up being removed for cause anyway. The system can “remember” you and you don’t have to re-login every time, just occasionally. As annoying at that can be when you’re either on a different system or it’s been too long since the last login or whatever it’s a lot less annoying than having a comment get eaten even once.
The problem with that is that it would likely eliminate the many isolated single but sometimes interesting comments that are left her on older posts. They happen all the time, and sometimes they’re gems, or folks finding their old cars posted here, or otherwise. i would really hate to lose that.
That makes sense, thanks for the explanation and I’d say I agree with that aspect of it.
I’ve had fairly consistent success with posting since I stopped checking “remember me” for automatic login and just logging in when I see fit to comment.
The algorithms stink if they let those spam comments get through. So Akismet doesn’t filter actual spam content from a post but prevents commenting because we didn’t jump blindly through random hoops in the login process? And it’s NOT only registration, I’ve been registered as long as I’ve been on here and have lost numerous comments lately.
I agree that the ‘remember me’ box doesn’t remember very well. After four days its forgotten me and I have to log in again.
I’m another one who’s had comments disappear even when logged in. If it doesn’t work I figure I’ve got something else I ought to be doing anyway. No great contributions to English literature or automotive critique have been lost thereby. 🙂
There is apparently some correlation to internet speed and/or a factor of geography. It seems that our readers in Europe and Australia have more issues with this, and there’s probably not much we can do about it.
Fair enough!
I’m afraid that’s not so. I’ve had comments eaten (disappear without a trace) while fully and double-checkedly logged in. I’ve logged out, cleared cookies and cache, restarted the browser, logged back in, tried again, and had them disappear again.
(This is not meant as an exhortation; having asked in private, I’m just about convinced this is one of those things that’s just going to happen from time to time, as a cost of automatic spam filtration good enough to be worth having.)
What can I say? I’ve posted over 17k comments and never once had an issue as long as I was logged in. You and Akismet are having some relational issues, it seems.
Same here, log in, make a comment, hit the post button and then end up at the top of the article. No links and no longer than this post.
I have been logging in for some time and I rarely have posting problems. However, like Daniel, every now and then one of my posts disappears upon posting. When I look into it, it seems that it gets flagged as spam and goes straight to the trash. If I check the trash, I can see my posts, but I don’t have the privileges to restore it. Usually posting a comment in the thread to the author will get it reposted. None of my posts have every just disappeared completely, they all end up in the trash.
I am still not sure what causes some of my posts to be flagged? There was mention of Australian and European comments having more difficulty, maybe it applies to those posting from Canada too?
Is this “trash” something everyone can access or only contributors? Where can I find “trash”? (If it shows up there, I could always cut and paste it to retrieve it).
Yes, where is this magical trash area? Just in case you know 😉
Not so black and white, Mr N.
I have never commented not logged in: it’s never let me do so. Yet I still have comments go for a hike to the trash. (If I think the comment was worth the effort, I just put a comment for someone nice to retrieve it, and someone nice usually does. Otherwise, I just pull out a few hairs and make a cup of tea). It seems length and over-complex grammar is regarded with great suspicion by Akismet, so, by chance, it happens to work as kerb – or curb – on personages who are inclined towards convoluted windbaggery, personages which may (or may not, no admissions) include the present-writing interlocutor, who are thenceforth mentally admonished for the grammarless wastelands they would attempt to inflict upon a reader and therefore act with a humbled linguistic restraint as an unintended but desireable consequence.
But not always.
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There is apparently some correlation to internet speed and/or a factor of geography. It seems that our readers in Europe and Australia have more issues with this, and there’s probably not much we can do about it.
I usually make a point of avoiding sesquipedalianisms justy, but in your case I’ll make an exception.
Great! (Why isn’t registering, which I never did before here, not required before commenting?) Comments work half the time without. For example, this one first time. Something is wrong.
So, I tried to register. It didn’t appear to work. No error message. No email.
I have same issue once in a while as Daniel Stern and Micahel J Allen did, doing the same thing for both Firefox and Safari (on Mac and iOS devices). It doesn’t matter whether my comments contain links or images. It doesn’t matter whether I logged in or not.
If I get the error message about posting too fast, I just click to go back then try again. Most of times, it works. Sometimes the comment that disappears in the first place would appear in a few hours or few days. Or perhaps never.
There’s no pattern that I can identify leading to the issue. Just very random thing.
I’ve learnt to copy the text before posting them every time.
There is apparently some correlation to internet speed and/or a factor of geography. It seems that our readers in Europe and Australia have more issues with this, and there’s probably not much we can do about it.
Thanks for head-up!
This site is just too hard to cope with sometimes. I rarely bother anymore. I don’t need the aggravation!
Just wondering if there’s another factor.
I’m not sure about others who are having this problem, but I’ve noticed that Daniel frequently uses handy hyperlinks in his posts. Is it possible that Akismet is seeing these, and perhaps something else in the writer’s sentence structures, and sending it into spam-land?
I rarely use links and do get comments dumped and “posting too fast” errors when I am not logged in prior to commenting (which is down to pure laziness on my part). But I would log in to leave a comment if it was required. I can’t see any kind of common link between my various comments that get dumped, besides that I think I am the king of the run-on sentence. I have been watching it more lately and do not recall an instance of it happening when logged in. (I get the posting too fast comment signifcantly more than just randomly losing something to the filter)
I have been registered on this site since pretty much the beginning. I have never changed my user name or password. I don’t comment very much these days, primarily because of a ridiculous work schedule (I do still read most everything here). That said, having sent comments from various computers and phones, I have rarely had any problem getting comments to post. This includes comments with pictures attached. Plus, the edit feature always seems to work for me. (This last sentence was added through the edit function.)
I have always made sure I was logged in before commenting.
Oh, and some of the spam is hilarious.
Same here. I’ve posted over 17k comments, and never once had a problem when I was logged in.
Thanks Paul, I’ll keep after it. I have random success and failures when not logged in, but it is somewhat more consistent when I am logged in. I am logged in now, and I will attach a photo just to see if that fouls up the works.
If your image is very large (significantly over 1200 pixels width), it may get rejected. That even happened to me the other day. I had to reduce it, then it was fine.
Reduced size photo (200K instead of 6 MB)
I’m always logged in when I comment, and I’ve had about a 50% success rate with getting comments deleted. I try to shorten the comments and resubmit, but repeated resubmissions make the great god Akismet angry.
A bit of web research indicates that Akismet is known for “false positives”, i.e. calling real comments spam, and that there are other WordPress anti-spam plugins.
PS: Beating spam is a terribly difficult issue and there are no easy answers. From its roots as an academic network, the internet has failed to provide for secure identity authentication.
I’m almost *never* logged in when I comment, and would say my success rate on the first attempt is between 50-70%, usually with the “posting too fast” error. I can sometimes reload the page (Safari on Mac) when I get that error and after a few reloads it will finally post my comment intact. Sometimes it goes poof, too. We have very slow and spotty rural internet for context (delivered by truck once a week, it seems).
So on longer comments, I try to remember to copy before I hit Post.
Tried logging in but cant remember my password, I might reregister instead, though I have found a way around the problems now.
Seems Akismet doesn’t like the word ‘sesquipedalianism’. I’ll try to avoid it in future.
I’d never made the logged-in connection, but it explains my commenting experiences, thanks Paul. Looking back over the past few months, when my comments have vanished, it’s been when I’ve popped over to CC for a quick read without logging in. When I’ve got a good period of time to read several articles, I’ve logged in and haven’t had any of those comments vanish. Old Pete: top marks for ‘sesquipedalianism’, not a word I was familiar with but I’m going to use it repeatedly (and unnecessarily!) in future!
OK I logged in and figure this is a good place to test it out. Looks like I can leave a comment, but my problem is I don’t receive an email on followup commands. THIS IS A TEST!
See if you get an email from this comment.
I think we learned some time ago that email interface does not work.
Yea no emails.
I never have a problem when using my home computer. However, for some reason I do with the office computer which is the same model as the home. Every time I try to log in I get a screen with one word top left of “error”. When I click on read more about half the time I get “error”. If I keep hitting resend for the story it will eventually show up.
When you get that error screen, delete all the cookies your browser has for Curbsideclassic.com. That worked for me.
Hey, if we have put up with Chevy Vega’s and BMW X5’s and Renault Allliance’s and Northstar engines in our past lives, we can tolerate a few disappearing comments. The world won’t stop turning. I’m not sure I’ve seen the correlation with being logged in but I’ll pay attention. And if I I’ve penned a lengthy comment which is an important contribution to world literature, I’ll try to copy it before submitting.
^^ What dman said here ^^. Copy and Paste is a good idea.
I usually am logged in when I make a comment. I have noticed the following:
1) Even logged in, my comment will sometimes disappear, only to reappear a little while later as though it went into limbo somehow, and was then approved for posting. This doesn’t happen often, but due to Murphy’s Law, it will have some spelling or grammatical boner in it that I then can’t fix, as the 15 minute editor is not available.
2) Pictures… there seems to be a size limit now, and Paul explained that above. That’s fine, but it IS frustrating, as there is no way to delete (or replace the photo) within the comment editor function.
3) And I think this may be a way that Akismet avoids malicious code, but if you want to joke around and say “insert maniacal laugh here” you’d better not use the greater than and less that symbols (grammatically correct for such foolishness, BTW), or that part of your text disappears.
4) I have used Daniel Stern’s way cool code (thanks for the tip, sir) to turn a word or phrase into a hyperlink. I’ve never had a post fail due to this. You would think that would be something that does get bounced (see # 3 above).
5) Why does CC hang up on me? I log in. I say keep me logged in. A few days later I am NOT logged in, and usually only notice it after I type out a comment to post. This is where I first learned the “play it safe, cut and paste” rule. Trademark pending ;o) This allows me to log in and try again, OR if feeling lazy, comment with User Name and e-Mail address, and if it gets lost, well, it’s still on the clipboard OR better yet in a Word File.
Ok, that ought to be a big enough diatribe to get noticed by Akismet. And I got to point out some of my own issues. I am currently logged in as RetroStang Rick, and it seems to be working perfectly, including multiple edits to this post.
Thanks,
Rick
Has this issue happened to you? Because not to be snippy, but, that kind of excusable attitude is how automotive deadly sins left unchecked sent companies into death spirals. This unfortunately is a site breaking bug as much as those were brand breaking bugs. This is more than a few comments, though it seems to effect a few commenters more than others.
It’s literally 50/50 for me and I noticed I lost another one today in the engine sound topic, the only comment besides this I submitted today. I’m not claiming any of my comments are litergical masterpieces (some I wish I could delete when I reread them, frankly), but I often think about a comment this long for up to a half hour or longer before submission and when it mysteriously goes *poof* because of a glitchy anti spam measure that hadn’t been a problem up 5 or 6 months ago, guess what? It’s kinda frustrating, and more frustrating when asking for solutions/help leads back to solutions I’ve already been practicing or user error…. grr…. No, it is not user error. I’ve been registered and logged into curbsideclassic since as far back as 2012, I post from the Chicago area and have consistently lost as many comments posting from the Denver area as well, right on the edges of the middle of the USA. What now? “Oh well ¯_(ツ)_/¯”
And yes, I have copied many of lost my comments before hand, I have a notes folder in my iPad that would fill a book on the comments I lost at this point. Super useful considering pasting them in and resubmitting guarantees they get immediately sent to trash again. Nice if I want to reread my own story, question, opinion or input on a car that’s being discussed.
I don’t know what you do during the day, but if you’re reading CC and commenting while at work, that may well be the issue for you. David Saunders has repeatedly pointed out that certain shared iSP and IP addresses (common at work sites) have a negative effect on commenting issues. This is most likely the cause for those that are having comments dropped while logged in. Maybe you can ask the company IT department for help? 🙂
This is a great point. My work computer is so locked down there are a lot of sites I can only view but not interact with. So I do my posting from my Samsung Galaxy tablet thing using the Samsung browser and have had, so far, no issues posting. BTW I am in Western Canada, Vancouver Island to be exact.
It’s highly problematic…. it so many areas.
I don’t want anymore accounts/usernames/passwords….for anything!
Lots of posts have just blanks where the accompanying photos should be … what’s up with all the broken links to photos?
My posts were like this too before I registered… Obviously, because you need to register to create an avatar (if that is the photo to which you are referring… if not, I apologize for misunderstanding).
Then after registering, if I am NOT logged in, but enter my username (my handle here: RetroStang Rick) and enter my email address associated with my username as registered, my avatar magically appears.
Apparently it’s the email address that rules this functionality. I can misspell my username all I want (as demonstrated in this post), but my avatar will still appear, but if I type in a different email address, no avatar will appear.
Hope this helps, but the best thing to do if you haven’t already, is to register here as Paul N suggests, and then just make sure you are logged in.
Rick
P.S. & Fun Fact: Most of my older posts before I registered were done with my work e-mail rather than my home e-mail address. Obviously there’d be no avatar. But before I registered, I used my home e-mail address on some of my posts, and for those old posts, the avatar populated itself right into place where none had existed before!
I mean the actual blog posts…. many have no pictures. They obviously once had pictures but they no longer populate the page and are broken links.
I believe that’s an issue with your browser. I think somebody else mentioned that happening to them once but alas, I can’t remember what the fix was. I can’t find any old articles where pictures don’t appear. For reference, I use Google Chrome.
I ran into an old CC the other day I was going to re-run, and all the pictures were blank. Uh-oh.
Sometimes I’ve seen this on older re-runs, but what happens more often is a linked video will be broken, presumably because YouTube takes it down.
I’d estimate 30% of older CC blog posts ( Lincoln and Cadillac especially) have missing pictures
Here is an example…
https://www.curbsideclassic.com/curbside-classics-american/curbside-classic-1995-lincoln-mark-viii-a-vision-in-evergreen-frost/